Re-Thinking some Popular Oxymoron Religious Views
Why is this View Self Contradictory for Pre-Trib? Because Jesus told exactly who would be "Taken," when He said He will, "Send His Angels to gather His Elect" (Matt.24:31). So, the Angels will not gather bad people. They'll gather Christ's Elect. If the Reader is confused, you have every right to be! When Bible statements are reversed, the result is always confusion. We have two Blogsites that look closer at the "Taken - Left Behind" confusion. See "One Left Behind," and "Pre-Trib - Does It Matter What I Believe."
Follow Up Clarification
If the Reader is unfamiliar with Pre-Trib's, "Two Phase Second Coming" View, we may need to make a clarification. Pre-Trib teaches that there will be a Rapture, then, 7 years later, after the Great Tribulation, the Second Coming occurs. The phrase, "One shall be taken, and the other left," describes perfectly Pre-Trib's alleged "Rapture," but they are forced to admit that the context of the phrase can ONLY be applied to the Second Coming as opposed to their so-called "Rapture." They say that at the Rapture, Jesus will come to earth and take only "Church People" back to Heaven. These people will simply vanish. In other words, they are Taken, while the un-saved people are Left Behind. Pre-Trib says that 7 years after the Rapture, Jesus will come back to set up His Kingdom on earth. At this time, according to Pre-Trib, Jesus will send His Angels to "Take" the unsaved people to a special Judgment and "Leave" the Saved People so they can enter God's Kingdom. Pre-Trib ignores the fact that Jesus said, "He will send His angels to gather His Elect," at which time, "One [the Elect Persons] will be taken and the other [the Lost Wicked Persons] left." By reversing Christ's Words, Pre-Tribbers create for themselves a serious Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Question. To examine this question further and see how Pre-Trib SHOULD and COULD answer it, see "One Left Behind." For even more info see "The Rapture - Does it Matter What We Believe?"
We ask a Question here. Does the fact that the most quoted Scripture Verse that Pre-Trib uses to prove their Rapture turns out to be a Bible Verse that, according to Pre-Trib itself, says the exact opposite from it is intended to say? We want to be kind, but, that is the very definition of an Oxymoron.
View 2 - Who's In Command During the Millennial Kingdom
The Self-Contradicting Pre-Trib View here is the fact that, in some publications Pre-Trib says the Millennial Kingdom is God's reward for the Jews, and then, often in the same publications, Pre-Trib says the Millennial Kingdom is a reward for the Raptured Church Age people; the Bride of Christ. According to Pre-Trib, John Darby began developing the whole Dispensation System based on his discovery that Israel and the Church are completely separate with totally different purposes in God's plan for this world. He based his view on Old Testament Promises and Prophecies made concerning the Jews that have yet to be fulfilled. The prevailing view of Christianity from the early Church has been that Israel had their chance to be the prevailing Nation in the distribution of the Gospel of Jesus, and they tossed it away forever by killing Jesus instead. We suggest that Christianity was completely correct in this, and we will look at it closer in a moment. So, who really inherits this Kingdom. Jesus said, "In My Father's house are many Mansions... I go to PREPARE a place for you... I will come again and receive you unto Myself that where I am, there ye may be also" (See Jn.14:2-3). He said this to His Disciples who, along with Him, are the Founders of Christ's Church. If Pre-Trib would accept that, during the Millennium, all of the saved from Planet Earth, Old and New Testament, will be living in those homes that Jesus prepared, there would be no self-contradictory View. Pre-Trib should accept what Paul told the Galatians about there not being any separation of Jews and Gentiles: "For ye are ALL the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond or free, there is neither male nor female; for ye are ALL one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye (everyone) Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise" (Gal. 26-29). Pre-Trib must either accept what Paul wrote, or say, "Nah Paul! Thou art WRONG!" Paul is clear that whatever promises made to Abraham that must still be fulfilled, will be fulfilled involving both Jews and Gentiles, everyone. And, whatever prophecies and promises made to the Church will be fulfilled involving Jews and the Church.
The Oxymoron
If the Reader does not believe that Pre-Trib Promoters are having a problem establishing their true View about this, simply do an Internet Search. Often you will see the same Pre-Trib Promoter make a strong case for the Millennial Kingdom being specifically set up for the Jews. Their Website will stress that Mortal Jews will be totally in command of the Kingdom with Jesus as King of the World, and King David as the Prince over Israel. Then, in that same Website, you'll read that the Raptured Church people, in their immortal, glorified bodies, will be ruling over the whole world. Obviously, according to this second View, the Jews will be under the command of the Raptured Church people. These two opposing Views create the very definition an Oxymoron. Again, Pre-Trib can solve this contradiction by simply accepting the words of Jesus when He said He was coming back to take His people to the places He has prepared, and, by accepting what Paul said about there being no difference between Jews and Gentiles. For more on this, see "Pre-Trib's Oxymoron. "
View 3 - SECOND CHANCE
In this Pre-Trib View, Pre-Trib promoters are consistent, and do not contradict themselves. All Pre-Tribbers claim that the people, "Left Behind" when Jesus comes to take his people to the, "Mansions He has prepared for them," have a Second Chance to Get Saved before Jesus returns for His Second Coming. In this View it is Jesus that contradicts Pre-Trib. Jesus told John to warn us that just before He, "Comes Quickly," He will declare from Heaven, "He that is UNJUST, let him be unjust still...he that is FILTHY, let him be filthy still" (Rev.22:11). We suggest that Jesus used the phrase, "Behold I Come Quickly," to let us know He was referring to the very next time He comes back to earth. Pre-Trib's Scofield Study Footnotes try to say that Jesus was not talking about the next time He would come, the Rapture, but rather Jesus was referring to when He would come and set up his Kingdom on earth. In a moment we will show from Scripture that Christ's Coming is not a two-phase event. If Jesus makes this declaration just before He comes to take His people to Heaven, there CANNOT be a Second Chance for unjust and filthy people to change and get saved. For more info on this Second Chance Pre-Trib promotes, see, "Pre-Trib's Second Chance Problem." Also, when Jesus gave this information to John, He said that when He "Comes Quickly" He will "Reward EVERY man" at that time. In a moment we will look at the contradictions this causes Pre-Trib. This Second Chance View is a serious inconsistency for all Pre-Tribbers, but, the problem gets worse for a certain portion of Pre-Trib Rapture Promoters that teach a Third Chance View!! Let's look:
"Oxymoron" -"A Self Contradicting Statement."
We want to be kind and respectful at all times in our Blogsites. The word, "Oxymoron," can be one of the most offensive things a person can say to another person. When putting this Blogsite together, we hesitated to use the word, "Oxymoron" for this reason. However, it is the only word that quickly describes a sentence or view that contradicts itself. If a Church Doctrine states a particular view, and then other doctrines within that Denomination state the complete opposite view, that Doctrine is by definition an, "Oxymoron." So, when a Doctrine contains within itself wording that promotes two completely opposing view points, promoters of this View or Doctrine must do some serious Re-Thinking. In this Blogsite we will examine 64 Pre-Trib Views which need some Re-Thinking.
First we have a serious request of our Readers. Some have become very discouraged after discovering that they have been holding certain Views that may not be Biblically correct, and, because of this, have wavered in their confidence in their Pastor, the Bible, and even God Himself. Please, Dear Reader, do NOT do this! Chances are your Pastor is a very honest and sincere man! The Bible IS the Word of God and it contains TRUTH; all the TRUTH needed for Salvation! Let's study, asking the Holy Spirit to be our only Guide. If we discover something differing from what we have believed, Let's first pray that God's Spirit will help us establish what is truth. Dear Reader, present your Pastor with anything you question. Bring this whole Blogsite to your Pastor's attention and ask him to evaluate it. And now, please, before proceeding, stop and say a prayer for God's Holy Spirit to be your only Guide as you proceed. We cannot stress enough, do NOT take this Author's word for anything!! Jesus made the following promise: "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into ALL TRUTH...and He will show you things to come" (Jn.16:13)!Let's claim that promise!!!!
Another point is VERY important. We are absolutely NOT trying to get our Readers to join a different Church or different Denomination. Absolutely the contrary!! If the Reader is a Pastor, it is our hope that you will present Truth to your Church. If the Reader is person studying earnestly about End-Time events and you recognize that the Powers of Darkness are hard at work setting up their Last-Day Delusions, again, pray for God's Spirit to protect you and your family and your Church family from their delusions!.
We must ALWAYS be kind and respectful as we discuss God's Holy Word, but always truthful, especially when looking at Bible subjects dealing with the Souls of humankind. With this in mind, let's carefully and prayerfully look at the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Theory, also called Dispensationalism. In other Blogsites we give more details and information and we will refer you to these as we proceed. Here we briefly summarize some of the Views within Pre-Trib that we see contradictions. If our Reader is a Pre-Trib Believer, please leave us your thoughts or questions in the "Comment" space at the end. If you disagree with us, please tell us and give us your Bible Verses. Thank you So Much for your time! May God's Holy Spirit help us as we study His Word!
"What Was I Thinking"
At one time or another we all have had a, "What was I thinking," moment. In this Blogsite we will look at several Views within Pre-Trib Dispensationalism that have caused many Pre-Trib Promoters to ask themselves, "What in the World Was I Thinking!" Let's look at a few Views to see if they contain Oxymoron view points:
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View 1-"One Taken, One LEFT BEHIND"
We want to be kind and respectful at all times in our Blogsites. The word, "Oxymoron," can be one of the most offensive things a person can say to another person. When putting this Blogsite together, we hesitated to use the word, "Oxymoron" for this reason. However, it is the only word that quickly describes a sentence or view that contradicts itself. If a Church Doctrine states a particular view, and then other doctrines within that Denomination state the complete opposite view, that Doctrine is by definition an, "Oxymoron." So, when a Doctrine contains within itself wording that promotes two completely opposing view points, promoters of this View or Doctrine must do some serious Re-Thinking. In this Blogsite we will examine 64 Pre-Trib Views which need some Re-Thinking.
First we have a serious request of our Readers. Some have become very discouraged after discovering that they have been holding certain Views that may not be Biblically correct, and, because of this, have wavered in their confidence in their Pastor, the Bible, and even God Himself. Please, Dear Reader, do NOT do this! Chances are your Pastor is a very honest and sincere man! The Bible IS the Word of God and it contains TRUTH; all the TRUTH needed for Salvation! Let's study, asking the Holy Spirit to be our only Guide. If we discover something differing from what we have believed, Let's first pray that God's Spirit will help us establish what is truth. Dear Reader, present your Pastor with anything you question. Bring this whole Blogsite to your Pastor's attention and ask him to evaluate it. And now, please, before proceeding, stop and say a prayer for God's Holy Spirit to be your only Guide as you proceed. We cannot stress enough, do NOT take this Author's word for anything!! Jesus made the following promise: "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into ALL TRUTH...and He will show you things to come" (Jn.16:13)!Let's claim that promise!!!!
Another point is VERY important. We are absolutely NOT trying to get our Readers to join a different Church or different Denomination. Absolutely the contrary!! If the Reader is a Pastor, it is our hope that you will present Truth to your Church. If the Reader is person studying earnestly about End-Time events and you recognize that the Powers of Darkness are hard at work setting up their Last-Day Delusions, again, pray for God's Spirit to protect you and your family and your Church family from their delusions!.
We must ALWAYS be kind and respectful as we discuss God's Holy Word, but always truthful, especially when looking at Bible subjects dealing with the Souls of humankind. With this in mind, let's carefully and prayerfully look at the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Theory, also called Dispensationalism. In other Blogsites we give more details and information and we will refer you to these as we proceed. Here we briefly summarize some of the Views within Pre-Trib that we see contradictions. If our Reader is a Pre-Trib Believer, please leave us your thoughts or questions in the "Comment" space at the end. If you disagree with us, please tell us and give us your Bible Verses. Thank you So Much for your time! May God's Holy Spirit help us as we study His Word!
"What Was I Thinking"
At one time or another we all have had a, "What was I thinking," moment. In this Blogsite we will look at several Views within Pre-Trib Dispensationalism that have caused many Pre-Trib Promoters to ask themselves, "What in the World Was I Thinking!" Let's look at a few Views to see if they contain Oxymoron view points:
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View 1-"One Taken, One LEFT BEHIND"
We start here because, "One Taken and One Left" is the benchmark Bible quote from Pre-Trib. If you ask an average member of a Pre-Trib Congregation what Bible Verse is the most powerful Scripture supporting a Pre-Trib Rapture, he or she would likely say, "One shall be Taken, the Other Left." If our Reader is such a person, be prepared for a major shock! According to Pre-Trib's Study Bibles and College/University Textbooks, the Bible Verses containing the phrase, "One Taken and One Left" are NOT Pre-Trib Rapture Scriptures! Pre-Trib says these phrases apply ONLY to the Second Coming of Jesus, an event that Pre-Trib says happens 7 years AFTER the Rapture. The picture on the right, portrays some people being "Taken" into the air and others being, "Left" at Christ's Coming. The Taken are joyful while the Left seem perplexed. Where are the, "Taken," taken to? Pre-Trib says the, "Taken" people are taken to a Judgment, and then, straight to HELL, and the "Left Behind" people are left so they can go into the Kingdom of God!!
"Taken" to Heaven, or Hell?
Shocked?? Yes, Pre-Trib says the people, "Taken" will be Taken to Hell!! According to Pre-Trib, the Bible Verse, "One shall be Taken, the other Left" (Matt.24:40-41;Lk.17:34-36), refers to angels taking people to Hell 7 years after a Rapture! In our Blogsites "One Taken - The Other Left Behind" and "Is There a Pre-Trib Rapture" we cover this in more detail and give documentation from Scofield Bible Footnotes and other Pre-Trib sources. Bible Prophecy is very clear, if we read the verses correctly. But, if we attempt to fit our Theories into the Prophecies by reversing, revising, or attempting to refute Scripture, confusion always happens! The Bible Verse, "One Taken - One Left," fits like a glove with all other Scriptures, if we let Jesus say what He really said! Jesus said, "And He (Jesus) shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His Elect from one end of heaven to the other" (Matt.24:31)! If Jesus sends His Angels to GATHER His ELECT, obviously the "Taken" will be His Elect, and those "Left" will be the lost wicked.
"Left Behind" at Jesus' Second Coming
"Taken" to Heaven, or Hell?
Shocked?? Yes, Pre-Trib says the people, "Taken" will be Taken to Hell!! According to Pre-Trib, the Bible Verse, "One shall be Taken, the other Left" (Matt.24:40-41;Lk.17:34-36), refers to angels taking people to Hell 7 years after a Rapture! In our Blogsites "One Taken - The Other Left Behind" and "Is There a Pre-Trib Rapture" we cover this in more detail and give documentation from Scofield Bible Footnotes and other Pre-Trib sources. Bible Prophecy is very clear, if we read the verses correctly. But, if we attempt to fit our Theories into the Prophecies by reversing, revising, or attempting to refute Scripture, confusion always happens! The Bible Verse, "One Taken - One Left," fits like a glove with all other Scriptures, if we let Jesus say what He really said! Jesus said, "And He (Jesus) shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His Elect from one end of heaven to the other" (Matt.24:31)! If Jesus sends His Angels to GATHER His ELECT, obviously the "Taken" will be His Elect, and those "Left" will be the lost wicked.
"Left Behind" at Jesus' Second Coming
Because "One Taken - One Left" is such a key part of Rapture discussion, let's look closer at "Who's Left." If the Reader is shocked and does not really believe that what we present here is actually the Doctrine of Pre-Trib, simply ask any Minister who has had formal education from a credited Pre-Trib College or University. If he or she is honest, he or she will verify that what we present here is true..
Two days before Jesus was crucified, He and His Disciples were at the Temple admiring it's beauty. Jesus told them there'd come a time when, "No stone would be left upon another" (Matt.24:2)! They then departed to the Mount of Olives. His Disciples were perplexed and asked Him, "What shall be the sign of Thy coming and of the end of the world" (Vs.3)? Jesus knew that False Prophets would be in the Church in the last days, so His first answer was, "Take heed that no man deceive you" (Vs.4)! He then carefully listed the order of events that would occur during the Great Tribulation. He said that Satan and his False Prophets would perform, "great signs and wonders insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very Elect" (Vs.24)! Jesus then told exactly when He would come back to take His people to Heaven. He said, "Immediately AFTER the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, the moon shall not give its light, the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken" (Vs.29)! The key phrase is "AFTER the Tribulation." Thus, "After the Tribulation," Jesus will send His Angels to "Gather His Elect" (Vs.31), during which time, "One will be Taken and the other Left" (Vs.40)! Pre-Trib Study Bible footnotes and College Textbooks claim that everything Jesus said in Matthew 24 and 25 refers only to the Second Coming. These Bible Footnotes and Text Books declare that NOTHING Jesus said in this discourse has ANY connection whatsoever to their so-called "Rapture." In spite of Pre-Trib saying that Jesus' words, "One Taken, and One Left" has nothing to do with their Rapture, Pre-Trib Promoters continually produce books and literature quoting, "One taken and One Left," as proof of their Rapture. Pre-Trib Ministers repeat, "One Taken, the Other Left," throughout their sermons as proof texts for their Rapture.
The Reader may ask, "Then why do Ministers quote it, if the same Ministers claim it's not a Rapture text?"
Great question! Do the Ministers know better? Those who've studied Pre-Trib sources know better, but, they may have a reason for misquoting, and it's quite clever, really. We'll explain:
Two days before Jesus was crucified, He and His Disciples were at the Temple admiring it's beauty. Jesus told them there'd come a time when, "No stone would be left upon another" (Matt.24:2)! They then departed to the Mount of Olives. His Disciples were perplexed and asked Him, "What shall be the sign of Thy coming and of the end of the world" (Vs.3)? Jesus knew that False Prophets would be in the Church in the last days, so His first answer was, "Take heed that no man deceive you" (Vs.4)! He then carefully listed the order of events that would occur during the Great Tribulation. He said that Satan and his False Prophets would perform, "great signs and wonders insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very Elect" (Vs.24)! Jesus then told exactly when He would come back to take His people to Heaven. He said, "Immediately AFTER the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, the moon shall not give its light, the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken" (Vs.29)! The key phrase is "AFTER the Tribulation." Thus, "After the Tribulation," Jesus will send His Angels to "Gather His Elect" (Vs.31), during which time, "One will be Taken and the other Left" (Vs.40)! Pre-Trib Study Bible footnotes and College Textbooks claim that everything Jesus said in Matthew 24 and 25 refers only to the Second Coming. These Bible Footnotes and Text Books declare that NOTHING Jesus said in this discourse has ANY connection whatsoever to their so-called "Rapture." In spite of Pre-Trib saying that Jesus' words, "One Taken, and One Left" has nothing to do with their Rapture, Pre-Trib Promoters continually produce books and literature quoting, "One taken and One Left," as proof of their Rapture. Pre-Trib Ministers repeat, "One Taken, the Other Left," throughout their sermons as proof texts for their Rapture.
The Reader may ask, "Then why do Ministers quote it, if the same Ministers claim it's not a Rapture text?" Great question! Do the Ministers know better? Those who've studied Pre-Trib sources know better, but, they may have a reason for misquoting, and it's quite clever, really. We'll explain:
"A Skunk in the Jury Box"
Some untrained Pre-Trib Promoters use, "One taken - One left," because they honestly think Pre-Trib teaches that these words from Jesus are about a Pre-Trib Rapture. Others, however, know better, but use, "One Taken - One Left" because they know their listeners will not look up the text. Lawyers call this the, "Skunk in a Jury Box," trick. Lawyers with a weak case make a false statement in court, knowing the Judge will instruct the jury to ignore it, but, they know the jury heard it and they know it will stick in their heads, thus, the purpose is served. This is why, "One Taken, the Other Left," is included in literature and sermons promoting a Pre-Trib Rapture.
Some untrained Pre-Trib Promoters use, "One taken - One left," because they honestly think Pre-Trib teaches that these words from Jesus are about a Pre-Trib Rapture. Others, however, know better, but use, "One Taken - One Left" because they know their listeners will not look up the text. Lawyers call this the, "Skunk in a Jury Box," trick. Lawyers with a weak case make a false statement in court, knowing the Judge will instruct the jury to ignore it, but, they know the jury heard it and they know it will stick in their heads, thus, the purpose is served. This is why, "One Taken, the Other Left," is included in literature and sermons promoting a Pre-Trib Rapture.
Why is this View Self Contradictory for Pre-Trib? Because Jesus told exactly who would be "Taken," when He said He will, "Send His Angels to gather His Elect" (Matt.24:31). So, the Angels will not gather bad people. They'll gather Christ's Elect. If the Reader is confused, you have every right to be! When Bible statements are reversed, the result is always confusion. We have two Blogsites that look closer at the "Taken - Left Behind" confusion. See "One Left Behind," and "Pre-Trib - Does It Matter What I Believe."
Follow Up Clarification
If the Reader is unfamiliar with Pre-Trib's, "Two Phase Second Coming" View, we may need to make a clarification. Pre-Trib teaches that there will be a Rapture, then, 7 years later, after the Great Tribulation, the Second Coming occurs. The phrase, "One shall be taken, and the other left," describes perfectly Pre-Trib's alleged "Rapture," but they are forced to admit that the context of the phrase can ONLY be applied to the Second Coming as opposed to their so-called "Rapture." They say that at the Rapture, Jesus will come to earth and take only "Church People" back to Heaven. These people will simply vanish. In other words, they are Taken, while the un-saved people are Left Behind. Pre-Trib says that 7 years after the Rapture, Jesus will come back to set up His Kingdom on earth. At this time, according to Pre-Trib, Jesus will send His Angels to "Take" the unsaved people to a special Judgment and "Leave" the Saved People so they can enter God's Kingdom. Pre-Trib ignores the fact that Jesus said, "He will send His angels to gather His Elect," at which time, "One [the Elect Persons] will be taken and the other [the Lost Wicked Persons] left." By reversing Christ's Words, Pre-Tribbers create for themselves a serious Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Question. To examine this question further and see how Pre-Trib SHOULD and COULD answer it, see "One Left Behind." For even more info see "The Rapture - Does it Matter What We Believe?"
We ask a Question here. Does the fact that the most quoted Scripture Verse that Pre-Trib uses to prove their Rapture turns out to be a Bible Verse that, according to Pre-Trib itself, says the exact opposite from it is intended to say? We want to be kind, but, that is the very definition of an Oxymoron.
View 2 - Who's In Command During the Millennial Kingdom
The Self-Contradicting Pre-Trib View here is the fact that, in some publications Pre-Trib says the Millennial Kingdom is God's reward for the Jews, and then, often in the same publications, Pre-Trib says the Millennial Kingdom is a reward for the Raptured Church Age people; the Bride of Christ. According to Pre-Trib, John Darby began developing the whole Dispensation System based on his discovery that Israel and the Church are completely separate with totally different purposes in God's plan for this world. He based his view on Old Testament Promises and Prophecies made concerning the Jews that have yet to be fulfilled. The prevailing view of Christianity from the early Church has been that Israel had their chance to be the prevailing Nation in the distribution of the Gospel of Jesus, and they tossed it away forever by killing Jesus instead. We suggest that Christianity was completely correct in this, and we will look at it closer in a moment. So, who really inherits this Kingdom. Jesus said, "In My Father's house are many Mansions... I go to PREPARE a place for you... I will come again and receive you unto Myself that where I am, there ye may be also" (See Jn.14:2-3). He said this to His Disciples who, along with Him, are the Founders of Christ's Church. If Pre-Trib would accept that, during the Millennium, all of the saved from Planet Earth, Old and New Testament, will be living in those homes that Jesus prepared, there would be no self-contradictory View. Pre-Trib should accept what Paul told the Galatians about there not being any separation of Jews and Gentiles: "For ye are ALL the children of God by faith in Jesus Christ. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond or free, there is neither male nor female; for ye are ALL one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye (everyone) Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise" (Gal. 26-29). Pre-Trib must either accept what Paul wrote, or say, "Nah Paul! Thou art WRONG!" Paul is clear that whatever promises made to Abraham that must still be fulfilled, will be fulfilled involving both Jews and Gentiles, everyone. And, whatever prophecies and promises made to the Church will be fulfilled involving Jews and the Church.
The Oxymoron
If the Reader does not believe that Pre-Trib Promoters are having a problem establishing their true View about this, simply do an Internet Search. Often you will see the same Pre-Trib Promoter make a strong case for the Millennial Kingdom being specifically set up for the Jews. Their Website will stress that Mortal Jews will be totally in command of the Kingdom with Jesus as King of the World, and King David as the Prince over Israel. Then, in that same Website, you'll read that the Raptured Church people, in their immortal, glorified bodies, will be ruling over the whole world. Obviously, according to this second View, the Jews will be under the command of the Raptured Church people. These two opposing Views create the very definition an Oxymoron. Again, Pre-Trib can solve this contradiction by simply accepting the words of Jesus when He said He was coming back to take His people to the places He has prepared, and, by accepting what Paul said about there being no difference between Jews and Gentiles. For more on this, see "Pre-Trib's Oxymoron. "
View 3 - SECOND CHANCE
In this Pre-Trib View, Pre-Trib promoters are consistent, and do not contradict themselves. All Pre-Tribbers claim that the people, "Left Behind" when Jesus comes to take his people to the, "Mansions He has prepared for them," have a Second Chance to Get Saved before Jesus returns for His Second Coming. In this View it is Jesus that contradicts Pre-Trib. Jesus told John to warn us that just before He, "Comes Quickly," He will declare from Heaven, "He that is UNJUST, let him be unjust still...he that is FILTHY, let him be filthy still" (Rev.22:11). We suggest that Jesus used the phrase, "Behold I Come Quickly," to let us know He was referring to the very next time He comes back to earth. Pre-Trib's Scofield Study Footnotes try to say that Jesus was not talking about the next time He would come, the Rapture, but rather Jesus was referring to when He would come and set up his Kingdom on earth. In a moment we will show from Scripture that Christ's Coming is not a two-phase event. If Jesus makes this declaration just before He comes to take His people to Heaven, there CANNOT be a Second Chance for unjust and filthy people to change and get saved. For more info on this Second Chance Pre-Trib promotes, see, "Pre-Trib's Second Chance Problem." Also, when Jesus gave this information to John, He said that when He "Comes Quickly" He will "Reward EVERY man" at that time. In a moment we will look at the contradictions this causes Pre-Trib. This Second Chance View is a serious inconsistency for all Pre-Tribbers, but, the problem gets worse for a certain portion of Pre-Trib Rapture Promoters that teach a Third Chance View!! Let's look:
View 4 - Pre-Trib's "Third Chance" Problem
All Pre-Trib Promoters claim that there will be a Millennial Kingdom here on earth filled with mortal humans, most of whom will remain alive throughout the entire thousand years. Pre-Trib claims the long life and minimal aging is because Satan is cast into his Bottomless Pit. Pre-Trib says some will die during this thousand years, but for the most part all will live throughout the entire time. The Un-Answerable Question comes from the fact that some Pre-Tribbers promote the notion that there'll be some wicked survivors of the Tribulation entering into this so-called Millennial Kingdom because the leaders of their Nation were kind to the Jews during the Tribulation, even defending them from Antichrist who was trying to torment and destroy them. As we covered previously, Jesus told John in Revelation that He would make a proclamation just before He comes back to Earth to take His People to Heaven. That Proclamation will be, "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still; and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still" (Rev.22:11)! Simply put, if Jesus made it clear that there'd be no Second Chance, obviously there'll be no Third Chance. For more on this Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Question, see "Pre-Trib's Chance Three Problem."
View 5 - Jesus "Comes Quickly" with "Rewards"
Jesus told John that immediately after He makes that proclamation from Heaven about the, "Unjust being unjust still, and the Filthy being filthy still" (Rev.22:11), He will come to take His People to Heaven. Jesus said that His next proclamation after the unjust being unjust still, will be: "And Behold I come QUICKLY, and My REWARD is with Me, to give to EVERY man according as his works shall be" (Rev.22:12)! If Jesus is going to make these two proclamations just before He comes to take His people to Heaven, this a MASSIVE problem for Pre-Trib! Pre-Trib has an answer. Pre-Trib declares that when Jesus said, "Behold I come Quickly," He was not referring to the time He will come to take His people to Heaven, but rather to the event seven years afterwards. In other words, Pre-Trib says Jesus was referring to the "Second Phase" of His Second Coming. We respectfully disagree. We disagree that there will even be a "Two Phase" coming of Jesus. When Jesus used the term, "Come QUICKLY," He obviously was referring to the very next time He would come to earth. Pre-Trib's massive problem is the fact that they claim Jesus will leave people behind at that time who have an another opportunity to change from being, "Filthy and Unjust," into being Righteous and Saved. Not only is this a problem with the notion that humankind will have a "Second Chance" after Jesus takes His people to Heaven, there is this problem about the "REWARDS" Jesus spoke about. In order for Pre-Trib to be correct, Jesus CAN NOT reward "EVERY" man, but He can reward only a small portion of people. Pre-Trib says the only people Jesus, "Rewards" when He "Comes Quickly" will be "Grace Age" people that lived during the time between Jesus death and when He comes to take His people to Heaven. Pre-Trib calls this the Rapture. Again, the Scofield Bible tries to indicate this time when Jesus Comes Quickly is a second phase of His Coming. Pre-Trib has no choice but to say it will be impossible for Jesus to "Reward Every man when He comes because, according to Pre-Trib, the following people cannot be rewarded at that time:
"No Old Testament Saints." Pre-Trib says all Old Testament Saints must wait until after the Tribulation before they are resurrected, thus they will NOT be rewarded when Jesus "Comes Quickly."
"No Tribulation Saints." Pre-Trib says Tribulation Saints CANNOT receive their rewards when Jesus Comes Quickly because they will not even believe in Jesus as their Savior until after He "Comes Quickly." According to Pre-Trib, the "144 Thousand" and the "Un-Numbered Multitude" will be converted to Christianity AFTER Jesus, "Comes Quickly." Obviously, if Pre-Trib is correct, these people cannot receive their rewards when Jesus Comes Quickly. But Jesus said, "EVERY Man."
"No Millennial Saints." Pre-Trib says there'll be Billions of people born during what they call the "Millennial Kingdom." We'll show Scriptures in a minute that prove there's no possibility of a Millennial Kingdom here on Earth. In fact these statements from Jesus prove that no such Kingdom will exist. Un-born people could not receive, "Rewards" when He "Comes Quickly!" Sometimes reality will take care of a lot of confusion.
Truth
This is clear! When Jesus, "Comes Quickly," everything will happen exactly as He said. He will reward ALL of the Righteous from ALL Ages with Life Eternal. He will take them with Him to Heaven. All of them, "shall be caught up together with them (resurrected Righteous) in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (See 1Thess.4:13-18)! All of the lost wicked still alive will be, "Destroyed by the brightness of His Coming" (2Thess.2:8)! Death is the reward of the Wicked and Heaven is the reward of the Saved! It is just that simple! Do we believe Jesus or a Theory?
View 6 - "Falling Away FIRST"
Here Pre-Trib Contradicts its own position, and, completely Contradicts the Apostle Paul. Paul prophesied the following sequence of events concerning Jesus coming to, "Gather" His people to take them to Heaven. Note especially the words "Falling Away": "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, no by word, nor by letter as from us, as that Day of Christ is at hand. Let NO MAN DECEIVE YOU by any means! For that Day shall NOT come, except there come a FALLING AWAY First, and that Man of Sin [Antichrist]be revealed, the son of perdition" (2Thess.2:1-3)! There is no way to read this from Paul and still conclude that Jesus is going to gather His people and take them to Heaven before Antichrist is revealed and is allowed to do his evil work. And how does Pre-Trib attempt to answer this Un-Answerable Question? They claim that the words "Falling Away" actually mean "Rapturing Away" the Church. The original Greek word Paul used for "Falling Away" is also translated "Apostasy!" This prophecy from Paul is a complete rebuke to the View that Jesus will come and take His people to Heaven before the Tribulation and before Antichrist. This is another situation in which Pre-Trib seems to be saying, "Nay Paul!!! Thou art Wrong!" For a detailed look at this, see "Is there a Pre-Trib Rapture - Does it Matter." Also see "One Left Behind."
View 7 - "Hearts Overcharged with Surfeiting"
The word, "Rapture" is not actually found in the Bible. Critics of the Pre-Trib Rapture have used this against the Rapture Theory over and over. However, the word "Harpazo" is found several times in the Bible New Testament. Harpazo is actually one of the root words to the word, "Surfeiting" that Jesus warned against. In fact, Jesus, by using the word, "Surfeiting," may have used a word that could actually be translated "Pre-Trib Rapture." The whole concept of being Raptured before the Great Tribulation and before Antichrist has caused millions to become exuberant (overcharged) with excitement. Some congregations literally jump up and down and dance in the isles when their Preachers expound about the "Rapture!" But, what if the Bible makes it abundantly clear that Jesus is NOT going to come and take His people to Heaven before the Tribulation? What if the Church will be here on Earth, FRONT and CENTER, facing Antichrist during this time. Instead of dancing and "Overcharging our Hearts," we should be solemnly studying our Bibles and asking the Holy Spirit to help us prepare our hearts for the last day events. Is it possible that Jesus warned us specifically about, "Overcharging our hearts" with a false understanding of the last days? We have a Blogsite devoted exclusively to looking at what Jesus might have meant when He said the following: "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your HEARTS be OVERCHARGED with SURFEITING and drunkenness and the cares of this life, and so that day (Christ's Coming) come upon you unawares" (Lk.21:34)! It is believed by Pre-Tribbers that the Church need not be concerned about Antichrist or the Tribulation because they'll be gone to Heaven. But after giving the above warning, Jesus said the following: "Watch ye therefore, and pray always that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all of these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man" (Vs.36)! In our Blogsite, Hearts Overcharged with Surfeiting, we look carefully at that word "Surfeiting." We use Strong's Concordance and the results are shocking. It turns out that the word Surfeiting is used only once in the Bible, and its Greek word has root words that match words our Popular Preachers use when describing a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Some of those root words also describe other Un-Answerable Questions within Pre-Trib. We'll give a preview of what you'll discover. You'll see root words with such meanings as, "Take Away Up" and "Carry Away." When all of the study is completed, it appears that Jesus is warning people not to allow their hearts to be Overcharged with a false notion that they'll be "Snatched Away Up" before the Time of Trouble. Our Blogsite, Hearts Overcharged with Surfeiting is a MUST SEE! In it we explain how "Surfeiting" could actually mean, "Pre-Tribulation Rapture Theory." Also see "Left Behind Problems for Pre-Trib," and Is There a Pre-Trib Rapture - Does it Matter?
View 8 - "Kingdom NOT of this World"
The Contradictory View here will be seen easily and immediately. Pre-Trib says Christ's Kingdom will be a thousand year kingdom here in this world. Jesus said it would not. When Pilate asked Jesus if He was King of the Jews, the answer Jesus gave causes a HUGE Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib and completely contradicts Pre-Tribs Millennial Kingdom View! Jesus said to Pilate, "My Kingdom
is NOT of this world" (Jn.18:36). Pre-Tribbers try to explain this by saying Jesus was actually saying His Kingdom was not going to be at that time. AION or COSMOS
The King James scholars translated both "aion" and "cosmos" as "world." Thus when we see the word "world" in the King James Version of the Bible, sometimes it means, "Age" and sometimes "Planet" or "Earth." If the original Greek word is "Aion," and is translated "World," the meaning is always "a Time Period." If the word is from the Greek word, "Cosmos," the meaning
is always, "World" or "Planet."
If Jesus had said, "My Kingdom is not of this AGE," Pre-Trib would have a slim reason for saying Jesus meant that His Kingdom was not for that particular time, but for a future age. But Jesus said, "My Kingdom is not of this Cosmos," meaning "this PLANET; this EARTH; this WORLD." Christ's Kingdom will be the New Earth after the Millennium. Jesus will relocate His Kingdom undisturbed from the place it will be located for the first thousand years of its existence to Planet Earth where it will remain throughout eternity. John prophesied about this relocation: "And I, John, saw the Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven..." (Rev.21:2)! The Kingdom of God will spend the first thousand years in New Jerusalem which is actually a huge City John said was 1364 miles across and 1364 miles high. When Jesus takes His people to Heaven, to the "Mansions" He promised them, these homes are in New Jerusalem and God's people will own these homes forever and forever! When the thousand years are finished, Jesus simply relocates the entire Kingdom to this Earth, and at the same time purifies our earth with a massive fire, after which He creates a New Earth, thus expanding His Kingdom. See God's Millennial Kingdom and Satan's Millennial Kingdom
View 9 - Everlasting or Millennial Kingdom
The Contradictory View here appears immediately and is easy to solve. The Bible says over and over that the Kingdom of God will be an Everlasting Kingdom, while Pre-Trib claims the Kingdom is a Millennial Kingdom. The solution is very easy. Build our Views on the Bible fact that Christ's Kingdom is not millennial, but Everlasting. The definition of Oxymoron is a statement that has within itself contradictions. To say, "The Millennial Kingdom is an Everlasting Kingdom," is clearly an Oxymoron statement! Millennium means a thousand years, and Everlasting means forever and ever. Pre-Trib says that, at His Second Coming, Jesus will set up a "Millennial Kingdom" here on earth. Pre-Tribbers are confused and divided, however, about what happens at the end of their version of the Millennium. Will Christ's Kingdom be finished and destroyed by fire after the thousand years? Some Pre-Tribbers admit that the Bible describes earth being completely and utterly destroyed by fire at the end of the thousand years. The Scofield Bible has a footnote under Peter's description of the, "Day of the Lord." Peter writes, "The Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat! The EARTH also, and the works therein shall be BURNED UP" (2Pet.3:10)! The Scofield footnote says this massive fire happens at the end of the Millennium, but offers no explanation as to how it is that the Kingdom of God ends after a thousand years. Other Pre-Trib promoters, however, boldly and completely deny Peter's description and all Bible Prophecies describing Earth's destruction by fire. These Pre-Tribbers claim this Earth will NEVER be destroyed, but will continue in its Paradise state forever. What do these particular Pre-Trib Promoters say about Jesus, "Creating a New Heaven and New Earth?" Their silence is deafening! Pre-Tribbers on both sides of this question have a double dilemma! Let's look closer:
Pre-Trib Promoters who admit that earth will be destroyed at the end of the thousand years create an Un-Answerable Question for themselves! Why does the Bible describe the, "Kingdom of God" as an Everlasting, Un-Ending Kingdom, if it will be completely destroyed by fire after a thousand years? Nowhere in Scripture can they find a single passage saying God's Kingdom will end or be destroyed by fire. If these Pre-Trib Promoters would truly accept the Bible's version of what happens when Jesus Comes, and where the Redeemed will spend the first thousand years of Christ's Everlasting Kingdom, they'd no longer have this Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Question. Jesus said, "My Kingdom is NOT of this World (Planet)" (Jn.18:36), thus the first thousand years of Christ's Reign will be in Heaven, in the Holy City of New Jerusalem! He told His Disciples He was going to Heaven to "Prepare a place for them" (Jn.14:1-3), and also those who accept the Gospel after them! The Bible is very clear if we read it as it is written. The "Place" Jesus prepares is New Jerusalem, and after the first thousand years, New Jerusalem simply relocates to where Earth is now located (See Rev.Chapters 21-22). John wrote that New Jerusalem is a City 1364 miles across and 1364 miles tall, thus the, "Kingdom Prepared from the Foundation of the World" (Matt.25:34) that Jesus will give His people when He comes NEVER ends, only relocates!
If the Kingdom of God will be located where Jesus said, "In His Father's House" (Jn. 14:1-3), there is an interpretation with a perfect fit that leaves NO Un-Answered Questions or conflicting Views. Jesus went to Heaven, New Jerusalem, and "Prepared a Place" for His people. He will come back and take them to that Kingdom where they'll, "live and reign with Him a 1000 years" (Rev.20:4-6). Even though it says a 1000 years, God's Kingdom is Everlasting with NO interruptions. Following is a brief outline of how the Bible REALLY explains these events:
During this thousand years, Satan and his demons are confined to earth which is covered with billions of rotting unburied human bodies (Isa.24:1-5; Isa.34:3; Jer.25:33). During this 1000 years, earth is Satan's Bottomless Pit. At the end of thousand years, the Kingdom of God, New Jerusalem, the Holy City that is 1364 miles across and 1364 miles high (Rev. 21:17), comes down to earth. Jesus' feet touch the Mount of Olives which spreads into a "Great Valley" (Zech.14:12). This valley, 1364 miles across, provides the place for New Jerusalem to set. After the wicked dead are resurrected, Satan rallies them into believing they can overtake New Jerusalem. They surround New Jerusalem, but instead of a battle, they find themselves standing before the Great White Throne Judgment. They are Judged and of course found guilty, after which, "fire comes down from God out of heaven and devours them" (Rev.20:9)! This fire also purifies earth destroying sin and sinners. When the fires have done their work, earth is, "without form and void" once again as it was when Jesus began Creation Week in the beginning. Jesus then creates a New Earth. Heaven, New Jerusalem, and Earth are now one and the same, thus fulfilling Scriptures prophesying a "New Heaven and New Earth." So it is that the Kingdom of God will be "Everlasting," uninterrupted as it moves from its present location, Heaven, to our Planet Earth where it will stay forever and ever (Rev.21:1). It'll be our same Earth, just purified so that it will be fit for God and His People FOREVER. It'll be like it was when Jesus created it for Adam and Eve! A Giant Garden of Eden, FOREVER!!
When Pre-Tribbers are asked why they insist on the Kingdom being here on earth with mortals, sinners, and ending after a thousand years, their answer is, "What about the promises made to the Jews?" With all due respect, because the Jewish leaders completely rejected Jesus and even killed Him, Jesus said to them, "Your house is left unto you desolate" (Matt.23:38). The opportunity for the Jewish nation to be the nation through which the Gospel of Jesus will be delivered has come and gone, and Jesus said they wasted it. They killed Jesus instead of making Him their Savior! All Jews and Gentiles and every person on earth has the same opportunity for salvation. But, the Jews as a nation are no longer God's channel to the rest of the world. God's Church now holds that position. See Is the Church Israel, and Did Jesus Offer a Kingdom to the Jews.
Two Views Need Re-Thinking
Common Sense
Sometimes when establishing a View on a Bible subject, we must ask ourselves if our View makes sense. It is clear that Jesus is in Heaven now, "Preparing a place for His People" (Jn.14:1-3). We also know that, at the end of the Tribulation, God will, "pour out His wrath without mixture into the cup of His indignation" (Rev.14:10), and we know that Jesus will, "tread the wine-press of the fierceness and the wrath of Almighty God" (Rev.19:15). We know that just before Christ's Second Coming, God will send seven Angels with seven vials filled with the Seven Last Plagues, and God will say to them, "Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God" (Rev.16:1). That last Plague includes an earthquake that probably destroys every man-made structure on earth. The Common Sense Question is, if God will be preparing Planet Earth so that His Blessed can, "Inherit the Kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the earth" (Matt.25:34), why would He completely destroy it? This makes no sense whatsoever. If, on the other hand, God will be preparing the perfect environment for Satan and his Demons to spend a thousand years, decimating earth makes perfect sense. And a careful Bible study about Satan's Bottomless Pit will show this to be exactly what God's plan is.
For more, Satan's Earthly Millennial Kingdom. For a study into what Christ's plan is for the "Blessed of His Father," see God's Heavenly Millennial Kingdom .
View 11 - Planet Earth During the Millennium?
Dispensationalists, as well as almost all Christian denominations, teach that Planet Earth will be the location of God's Millennial Kingdom. The night before Jesus told Pilate His Kingdom wo
uld not be on this planet, He told His Disciples He was going to Heaven to Prepare a place for all of His Redeemed People (See Jn. 14:1-3). Again see Satan's Millennial Kingdom. There we show from Scripture that Planet Earth will have billions of dead bodies scattered everywhere, and this is Satan's Bottomless Pit. Check it out!
Earth during the Millennium will be completely FROZEN! For Bible Proof, see "Satan's Millennial Kingdom - His Bottomless Pit."
When Pre-Tribbers are asked why they insist on the Kingdom being here on earth with mortals, sinners, and ending after a thousand years, their answer is, "What about the promises made to the Jews?" With all due respect, because the Jewish leaders completely rejected Jesus and even killed Him, Jesus said to them, "Your house is left unto you desolate" (Matt.23:38). The opportunity for the Jewish nation to be the nation through which the Gospel of Jesus will be delivered has come and gone, and Jesus said they wasted it. They killed Jesus instead of making Him their Savior! All Jews and Gentiles and every person on earth has the same opportunity for salvation. But, the Jews as a nation are no longer God's channel to the rest of the world. God's Church now holds that position. See Is the Church Israel, and Did Jesus Offer a Kingdom to the Jews.
View 10 -"Inherit the Kingdom Prepared For You"
Determining if a Pre-Trib View is Self-Contradictory can require a lot of research. This is not one of those. The Conflict here is seen immediately, and it should have been dealt with when Pre-Trib was first being developed. Let's look."Then shall the King say unto those on His right hand, Come ye blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world"(Matt.25:34).
Pre-Trib says this event happens immediately after the Great Tribulation. They say that when Jesus declares the above, planet earth will be the, "Inherited Kingdom." However, Pre-Trib Promoters know exactly the condition of Planet Earth at Christ's Second Coming, and they readily admit that Earth will be in horrid condition. They agree that planet earth will have been devastated by 7 Plagues, including the worst worldwide earthquake EVER (Rev.16:18). All of earth's water will be as, "the blood of dead men" (Rev.16:3-7). Billions of dead bodies will be scattered all over the earth (See Isa.34:3 and Jer.25:33). Every city on earth will look much like our picture illustration shown here. The entire planet will look like a war zone! However, this, says Pre-Trib, is what Jesus gives the Jews, and the Gentiles that were kind to the Jews during the Tribulation, as a reward for enduring the Tribulation and resisting Antichrist! This Pre-Trib View about Christ's, "Kingdom prepared for His people from the Foundation of the World," should cause every Pre-Trib believer to do a lot of Re-Thinking! We've searched the Internet to find a defender of Pre-Trib that can explain how and why Jesus will give the, "Blessed of His Father," a planet utterly devastated, and how He will refer to this twisted carnage as, "The Kingdom Prepared for them from the Foundation of the World." So far we've found no Pre-Tribber that has attempted to answer, but we will keep searching. So, what will really happen when Jesus comes? Jesus tells us:
"PREPARE A PLACE For You"Determining if a Pre-Trib View is Self-Contradictory can require a lot of research. This is not one of those. The Conflict here is seen immediately, and it should have been dealt with when Pre-Trib was first being developed. Let's look."Then shall the King say unto those on His right hand, Come ye blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world"(Matt.25:34).
Pre-Trib says this event happens immediately after the Great Tribulation. They say that when Jesus declares the above, planet earth will be the, "Inherited Kingdom." However, Pre-Trib Promoters know exactly the condition of Planet Earth at Christ's Second Coming, and they readily admit that Earth will be in horrid condition. They agree that planet earth will have been devastated by 7 Plagues, including the worst worldwide earthquake EVER (Rev.16:18). All of earth's water will be as, "the blood of dead men" (Rev.16:3-7). Billions of dead bodies will be scattered all over the earth (See Isa.34:3 and Jer.25:33). Every city on earth will look much like our picture illustration shown here. The entire planet will look like a war zone! However, this, says Pre-Trib, is what Jesus gives the Jews, and the Gentiles that were kind to the Jews during the Tribulation, as a reward for enduring the Tribulation and resisting Antichrist! This Pre-Trib View about Christ's, "Kingdom prepared for His people from the Foundation of the World," should cause every Pre-Trib believer to do a lot of Re-Thinking! We've searched the Internet to find a defender of Pre-Trib that can explain how and why Jesus will give the, "Blessed of His Father," a planet utterly devastated, and how He will refer to this twisted carnage as, "The Kingdom Prepared for them from the Foundation of the World." So far we've found no Pre-Tribber that has attempted to answer, but we will keep searching. So, what will really happen when Jesus comes? Jesus tells us:
Jesus promised to "Go to His Father's House" to "Prepare a place" for His people. These words from Jesus should settle this!! Let's look closer:
The real Kingdom Prepared for the real Inheritors
Underscore Prepare. On the night of the Last Supper, Jesus said to His Disciples, "I go to PREPARE a place for you... I will come again and receive you unto Myself that where I am, there ye may be also" (See Jn.14:1-3). So, if Jesus said He would, "Go to Prepare a place," and,"Come Again to receive His people," and take them to Heaven, why shouldn't we believe Him? Isaiah, Peter, and John say Earth will be destroyed by fire at the end of the thousand year Millennium and then a, "New Earth" will be created by Jesus. If Pre-Trib is correct, and the Kingdom of God is Planet Earth during this thousand years, and then God destroys this Planet with fire, how can God's Kingdom be everlasting with no end? Pre-Trib admits that God's Kingdom will never end. All Bible Prophecies declare that God's Kingdom is an, Everlasting Kingdom. The real Kingdom Prepared for the real Inheritors
Two Views Need Re-Thinking
- Will Jesus give the Blessed of His Father a broken down, devastated Planet Earth as their inherited Kingdom from the Foundation of the World?
- Will Jesus give the Blessed of His Father a Kingdom proclaimed to be an, "Everlasting Kingdom," then completely destroy it after a thousand years?
Common Sense
Sometimes when establishing a View on a Bible subject, we must ask ourselves if our View makes sense. It is clear that Jesus is in Heaven now, "Preparing a place for His People" (Jn.14:1-3). We also know that, at the end of the Tribulation, God will, "pour out His wrath without mixture into the cup of His indignation" (Rev.14:10), and we know that Jesus will, "tread the wine-press of the fierceness and the wrath of Almighty God" (Rev.19:15). We know that just before Christ's Second Coming, God will send seven Angels with seven vials filled with the Seven Last Plagues, and God will say to them, "Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God" (Rev.16:1). That last Plague includes an earthquake that probably destroys every man-made structure on earth. The Common Sense Question is, if God will be preparing Planet Earth so that His Blessed can, "Inherit the Kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the earth" (Matt.25:34), why would He completely destroy it? This makes no sense whatsoever. If, on the other hand, God will be preparing the perfect environment for Satan and his Demons to spend a thousand years, decimating earth makes perfect sense. And a careful Bible study about Satan's Bottomless Pit will show this to be exactly what God's plan is.
For more, Satan's Earthly Millennial Kingdom. For a study into what Christ's plan is for the "Blessed of His Father," see God's Heavenly Millennial Kingdom .
View 11 - Planet Earth During the Millennium?
Dispensationalists, as well as almost all Christian denominations, teach that Planet Earth will be the location of God's Millennial Kingdom. The night before Jesus told Pilate His Kingdom wo
uld not be on this planet, He told His Disciples He was going to Heaven to Prepare a place for all of His Redeemed People (See Jn. 14:1-3). Again see Satan's Millennial Kingdom. There we show from Scripture that Planet Earth will have billions of dead bodies scattered everywhere, and this is Satan's Bottomless Pit. Check it out!
As an added note, it is not just Christianity that has problems comprehending these words of Jesus. Almost all other world religions teach that a wonderful world leader will come to earth and unite the world in a long period of peace and prosperity. Could it be that Lucifer himself developed all of these "Earthly Kingdom of Peace" notions that directly oppose what Jesus said. Jesus said, "I go to prepare a place for you...I will come
again and receive you unto Myself that where I am [in Heaven; in His Father's House], there ye may be also." If every major religion on earth opposes and denies these words of Jesus, and only a very, very few believe the words of Jesus, one can quickly see who is right.
again and receive you unto Myself that where I am [in Heaven; in His Father's House], there ye may be also." If every major religion on earth opposes and denies these words of Jesus, and only a very, very few believe the words of Jesus, one can quickly see who is right.Earth during the Millennium will be completely FROZEN! For Bible Proof, see "Satan's Millennial Kingdom - His Bottomless Pit."
View 12 -Where is Satan's Bottomless Pit?
There's really no excuse for any confusion as to where Satan's Bottomless Pit is located. We cover this in depth in Blogsite, Satan's Millennial Kingdom. There we prove beyond doubt that Satan's Bottomless Pit is this EARTH, this Planet, after it has been destroyed by the 7 Last Plagues described in Revelation 16. Dozens of Scriptures declare the Sun will not give its light during this thousand years, thus making earth a completely frozen planet.
Pre-Tribbers actually do not say where they believe Satan's Bottomless Pit will be located. They imply that, somewhere here on Earth, God will create a hole that is thousands of miles deep. They imply that this hole reaches all the way into Hell, and this will be Satan's Prison for a thousand years. The truth is, many Old Testament Prophets repeat several times a prophecy about the condition of Earth during the years. The Greek word used in Scripture that has been translated "Bottomless Pit" is the same word as Abyss. When Jesus created Earth, the Bible calls earth "The Deep." "The Earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the DEEP." The words "Without Form and Void" appear several times in Old Testament Prophecies about what Earth will be like during the 1000 years after Jesus Comes. In our Blogsite, "Satan's Millennial Kingdom" we document these.
View 13 - Mortals In God's Kingdom?
This Self Contradicting View is a problem for Pre-Trib on several levels. We've already look at the fact that Earth will be a Frozen Abyss during the Millennium. Pre-Trib, on the other hand, says Earth will be a thousand year Paradise during this time. They tell us that God's Kingdom will actually be a Millennial Kingdom here on Earth that will be a fulfillment of Old Testament Prophecy/Promises made to the Jews. If, however, the Bible says there will be NO Flesh and Blood Mortals in God's Kingdom, Pre-Trib will have a serious Self-Contradictory View! Paul wrote, "Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God; neither d
oth corruption inherit incorruption" (1Cor.15:50). Pre-Trib says the purpose of the Kingdom of God is for the Jews, in their mortal, "flesh and blood," bodies to become the ruling nation of the world. It says that the people in the nations over which the Jews rule are also mortals, also still in their, "flesh and blood" bodies. Is Pre-Trib saying, "Nay Paul! Thou art Wrong! Flesh and blood people DO inherit the Kingdom of God?" Pre-Tribbers are divided as to whether or not there will be any non-mortals living in the Millennial Kingdom. Some say that ONLY Flesh and Blood, mortals will live in it, while others say the Raptured people will come back to earth with Jesus and live in the Millennial Kingdom. Most Christians that are not Pre-Trib also claim that Jesus will set up a Kingdom here on earth at His Second Coming, and that mortals will live in this Kingdom. Why this View is held by any Christians is a mystery. Jesus said He was going to prepare a place in His Father's House for His people? Should we not simply believe what the Bible says?
The Sheep and the Goats
When telling His Disciples the Parable/Prophecy about the Sheep and the Goats, Jesus made a statement that should have ended any notions that mortals will live anywhere after the Second Coming. He said, "but the righteous into Life Everlasting" (Matt.25:46). Do mortals have Life Everlasting? For more on this,see Christ's Millennial Kingdom, Satan's Millennial Kingdom.
View 14 - Sinners In God's Kingdom?
Jesus said, "Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he CANNOT SEE the Kingdom of God" (Jn. 3:3). Paul wrote, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God" (1Cor.6:9)? Also "I have told you in times past that they that do such things [Paul had made a list of sins] shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God" (Gal.5:21).
When asked about these statements from Jesus and Paul, Pre-Trib promoters answer, "I don't know about all that. All I know is, there'll be a Kingdom here on earth during the Millennium with mortal Jews and other mortal people living in it." Are they saying, "Nay Paul! Thou art WRONG Again!" Of course they know that Paul and Jesus are NOT wrong! What Jesus and Paul say about NO SINNERS in God's Kingdom makes perfect sense and is completely in compliance with all other Scripture. Jesus said sinners CANNOT inherit, CANNOT enter, and CANNOT even see the
Kingdom of God. Paul said the same. When Jesus will say, "Come ye blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" (Matt. 25:34), He will say something concerning these who "inherit the Kingdom." He will say, "the righteous [those inheriting the Kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world] will, "enter into Life Eternal" (Matt.25:46). Sinners will NEVER have "Life Eternal!" Jesus also said, "Except ye be CONVERTED, and become as little children, ye shall NOT ENTER the Kingdom of Heaven" (Matt.18:3).Gog and Magog - Pre-Trib's Rebuttal
Pre-Trib presents us with a rebuttal that appears to be our "Self-Contradicting View." If we look carefully at the Gog and Magog prophecies, it is clear that, at the end of the Millennium, there will be a huge group of sinners. When Satan is loosed at the end of the Millennium, he will have an army, "The number of whom is as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8)! If Jesus and Paul clearly say that there'll be no sinners or mortals in the Kingdom, where does Satan's army come from? Great question! Our Blogsite, "Gog and Magog" covers this in detail, and proves conclusively from the Bible that Jesus and Paul are correct about there being no sinners or mortals in Christ's Kingdom. We will give a very short explanation here.
Satan's army will consist of EVERY wicked person that has ever lived on Planet Earth. There is only one time ever that every lost wicked person will be alive at the same time! This is at the end of the thousand years when they are resurrected to face the Great White Throne Judgment. Such a group of people will be massive. This may be why John describes Satan's Arm as, "The number of whom is as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8)! It is easy to answer Bible Prophecy Questions when we use the Bible only. See Gog and Magog. Also See Christ's Millennial Kingdom, and Satan's Millennial Bottomless Pit Kingdom.
View 15 - Marriage in God's Kingdom?
Pre-Trib says that those accounted worthy to obtain the Millennial Kingdom, the next age, will be mortals who'll be marrying and bearing children.
Jesus said, "But they who shall be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to obtain that world (age), and the resurrection from the dead, NEITHER MARRY, nor are given in marriage, neither can they die any more [they're no longer mortals]; for they are equal with the angels, and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection" (Lk.20:35-36). This should clear up any Views that there will be marriage in the next age. However, even though Pre-Trib has little or no answers to these words from Jesus, we will offer what could be their response, and, it Pre-Trib were correct about their View of the Millennium, the answer would suffice.
Pre-Trib's Rebuttal
Pre-Trib could offer a rebuttal by claiming these words from Jesus only apply to resurrected, saved people and not to those who were alive at Christ's Second Coming. Christ's words do appear to allow for this View. Thus, in this, we must rely on other Scriptures to clarify the meaning of this Scripture. So, we revert back to the evidence concerning Sinners and Mortals living in God's Kingdom. This should be proof enough. Also, there is the Sheep and Goat parable in which Jesus said that those "inheriting the Kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world" would go, "into Life Everlasting" (Matt.25:46). Do we really believe people who have been granted "Everlasting Life" be bearing children who do not have "Everlasting Life?" For more on this, see, "Marriage in the Next Age"
View 16 - Children in God's Kingdom?
Obviously if Pre-Trib says there'll be marriage in God's Kingdom, it says there'll be children born in God's Kingdom. In our Blogsite, "Marriage in the Next Age," we cover the question of whether or not children will be born in God's Kingdom.The clarification to this point goes back to the previous questions. If no sinners or mortals inherit, enter, or even see the Kingdom, and there'll be no marriage or giving in marriage, then no children will be born. If this is true, and Scripture clearly says it is, Pre-Trib can use the same rebuttal to us that we covered earlier.
Pre-Trib's Rebuttal - Gog and Magog Army
When Satan is loosed at the end of the Millennium, he will have an army, "The number of whom is as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8)! Where does Satan find such an army? The Bible answers, but the answer is of no help to Pre-Trib, but actually creates more Pre-Trib Un-Answerable Questions. See "Gog and Magog."
View 17-Death in the Millennium?
Pre-Tribbers strain on this question. Their quick answer is that nobody will die because Satan is in his Bottomless Pit, thus without him inflicting sickness and death, people will live throughout the thousand years. But when they are questioned as to the fact that people are still mortals, thus subject to die, they are forced to give some kind of answer. Most Pre-Trib Promoters on the Internet say that there will be deaths for the wicked, but few if any deaths for the good people. A very high profile Pre-Trib Radio Minister had this question about good people dying put to him by one of his church members during a
question and answer session. His answer was that the person dying would immediately be raised from the dead. He felt that the people in Heaven, if there were people in Heaven during this time, will be in their new, Glorified bodies, thus a "Soul" or "Spirit" would not fit in, thus, the only way this could be resolved would be for the dead person to be immediately resurrected back to their former environment. In other words, there could be millions of resurrections during the Millennium. Husbands and Wives
The obvious question was not addressed by the Minister. If a man's wife died, and immediately was resurrected, we must assume she would now be in her new glorified, immortal body. As we've seen earlier, Jesus said resurrected people, "Neither marry, nor are given in marriage, neither can they die any more [they're no longer mortals]; for they are equal with the angels, and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection" (Lk.20:35-36). Would she still be his wife? Or, could he marry another wife? Or, must he spend the rest of the Millennium without a wife? There is a reason the Minister did not try to answer these questions. Are questions like this Un-Answerable?
Following are some of the confusing scenarios that cause the whole Question to be devastating for Pre-Tribbers:
People who Die during the Millennium
It would not seem right that saved people who die in the Millennium would go to Heaven because, according to most Pre-Tribbers, only Grace Age Church People who were "Raptured" and have become the Bride of Christ will have access to Heaven during the Millennial. Thus the resurrected Millennimites would not fit there. If they are saved and die during the Millennium, it would seem strange if they were immediately resurrected and continue on in their former state before they died. This would cause a mixture of mortals and immortals living and existing side by side. God could simply let them sleep in their graves, but Pre-Tribbers CANNOT go along with this because all Pre-Trib Promoters believe that the dead are not really dead at all, but are more alive than when they were alive. Pre-Trib says that at this present time, those who die are immediately transported into another state in a different location! Concerning the time of the millennium, Pre-Tribbers have no problem with consigning the unsaved Millenniumites straight to Hell, because they teach that Hell has been burning since Creation and that all lost people have been transported there immediately when they died. But about the saved who die during the Millennium, they have no consensus that they all can agree upon.
Solution
This kind of confusion can be easily overcome. Paul said that when Jesus comes and the Kingdom of God begins, "Flesh and Blood (Mortals) CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God" and, "Death is swallowed up in Victory" (1Cor.15:50,55)!! Jesus said sinners CANNOT inherit, CANNOT enter, and CANNOT even see the
Kingdom of God. If we accept these words from Jesus and Paul, and build our views of Death in the Millennium around them, all Contradictory Views will be gone. Death Swallowed Up in Victory
Pre-Trib says that Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:50-55, was prophesying directly about the time when Jesus will come to take His people to Heaven. Paul ended his prophecy with words that should settle any and all questions about whether or not there will ever again be death for righteous people: "Then (Jesus comes to take His people to Heaven) shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is Swallowed up in Victory" (1Cor.15:54). Let's base our Views on what Jesus and Paul tell us. For more, see, "Death in the Millennium."
View 18 - What is the NEXT AGE?
This sounds like a repeat from previous Questions, but the point is to clear up what Jesus meant when He said, "Those that are accounted worthy to obtain THAT AGE." What did Jesus mean by, "that age?" Since Pre-Tribbers teach that there'll be Mortals, Sinners, Marrying, and Dying during the Millennium, yet try to fit Immortals into the Millennium also, they create for themselves a serious Un-Answerable Question. When Jesus said, "But they who shall be ACCOUNTED WORTHY to obtain that WORLD (age), and the resurrection from the dead, NEITHER MARRY, nor are given in marriage, neither can they die any more [they're no longer mortals]; for they are equal with the angels, and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection" (Lk.20:35-36), we need to know what "World" or "Age" Jesus was speaking about. We need to clarify that the word Jesus used may be translated "World," the actual word is "AION" and means "Age" or "Time Period." Pre-Tribbers say Jesus was referencing the, "Kingdom Age." They are absolutely correct, so, Jesus is saying that NO Persons in the "NEXT AGE," or "Kingdom Age," will marry or die. If there are no marriages, child births, sinners, or mortals, in the "Kingdom Age," almost all Pre-Trib Doctrines are in VERY deep trouble! As we have seen, this presents HUGE problems for Pre-Tribbers, and completely denies a massive portion of their Theory/Doctrines. Again, see "Marriage in the Next Age."
View 21 - When Will Paul Receive His Crown?
Paul wrote, “I charge thee, before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick [living] and the dead at His Appearing and His Kingdom” (2Tim. 4:1). “Henceforth there is
laid up for me a CROWN of Righteousness, which the Lord, the Righteous Judge, shall give me at that DAY; and not to me only, but unto all them also that love His Appearing” (Vs.8). What “Day” did Paul mean? He said the DAY of Christ's “Appearing and His Kingdom.” Poor Paul! Pre-Tribbers disagree with him again and again! They say Paul will receive his crown 7 years BEFORE Christ's, "Appearing and His Kingdom." Pre-Trib says Jesus does not make an "Appearing" when He comes to Rapture His people to Heaven. They say the "Appearing" will happen 7 years later when He comes at His Second Coming. Pre-Trib also says it is at this "Appearing" that Jesus sets up His Kingdom, and that this is 7 years after He resurrected Paul and the other "Grace Age Church People.' So, Paul says he, and all who love Christ's Appearing, will get their Crowns at Christ's "Appearing and His Kingdom." We agree with Paul! What would Paul say if he knew the fastest growing, most popular movement within Christianity is completely disagreeing with, and reversing, so many things he wrote in his letters to the Churches? See, "Paul's Crown."
View 22 -First Resurrection?
Exploring this subject brings up several Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Questions. Pre-Trib says the Millennial Kingdom of God is specifically for fulfilling promises made to the Jews and that these promises can only be fulfilled while the Jews are still mortals, thus it stands to reason that those in charge of this Kingdom will have to be mortal Jews; Jews that have NOT died and have NOT been resurrected. However, this is exactly the opposite of what John saw! He was shown people in the Kingdom with high responsibilities that had been killed ("Beheaded") for resisting Antichrist during the Tribulation. Let's look:
"And I saw THRONES, and they sat upon them, and JUDGMENT was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and who had not worshipped the Beast (Antichrist), neither his image, neither had received his Mark in their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived (were resurrected) and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection; on such the second death hath no power, but they [those in the first resurrection] shall be Priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years" (Rev.20:4-6)!
Pre-Trib's View about this says, "Nay John!! Thou art also WRONG"
Pre-Tribbers say John's Vision cannot happen! They say that the ONLY people in the "First Resurrection" are Grace Age Church People, and that Antichrist will NOT have been allowed to work or inflict his Mark of the Beast on anyone until AFTER the First Resurrection. Anyone reading John's vision here cannot help but see Pre-Trib's Contradictory View.
Some Pre-Tribbers claim that immortals and mortals mix and mingle during the Millennium, and that immortal Raptured Church people will be in charge of the Kingdom. Their reasoning self-destructs. If persons other than Jews are in charge of God's Kingdom, then the Kingdom is not a fulfillment of Old Testament Promises to the Jews. If, on the other hand, mortal Jews are in charge of the Kingdom of God, what part will the immortal Church people, the Bride of Christ, have in the Kingdom? One need only to read a little from Pre-Tribber's "Mix and Mingle" view and it becomes clear they have created for themselves another Un-Answerable Question!
Solution
We must simply believe what John prophesied. There will be only one Resurrection of the righteous saved, and that Resurrection occurs after the Tribulation, and after that Resurrection many will reign with Christ as Priests.
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23 -How Many Resurrections?
We touched on this in several previous sections. Jesus and John say there'll be two resurrections; one for the Righteous and one for the Wicked. The one for the Righteous happens at the Second Coming. The one for the lost wicked is at the end of the thousand years. But, Pre-Trib says there'll be at least three resurrections for good people. Pre-Trib says there'll be one at the Rapture, one at the Second Coming at the end of the Tribulation, and one at the end of an Earthly Millennial Kingdom. Pre-Tribbers are not in agreement as what happens to the good people who die during the Millennium. They are also not certain about old people who enter that Earthly Millennial Kingdom. Do these old people stay old people throughout the entire thousand years? And what about the Old Testament Saints? Pre-Trib says they cannot be part of the Bride of Christ because these must come from what Pre-Trib calls the "Grace Age." Do all of these Old Testament Saint remain in their graves when Jesus comes to take His people to Heaven? Pre-Trib says they do. And if the Old Testament Saints are not raised till after the Tribulation, where do they go ad what do they do when they are resurrected? Do they go to Heaven, or do they stay here on earth for the Millennial Kingdom since most of them will most likely be Jews? All of these Un-Answerable Questions can be multiplied many times over when we add in the mass confusion of claiming that all dead people are already in Heaven or Hell at the present time! Confusion begets Confusion!! For a closer look at what the Bible says happens at Death, see "Are the Dead Dead or Alive? There we look at, "Absent from the Body - Present with the Lord."
View 19 -Paul's Last Trump? 
Paul said that when Jesus comes to take His people to Heaven, there'd be a "Last Trump." Pre-Trib says, however, that after the Trumpet Paul prophesied, there'll be yet another "Trump," and that Trump will serve the same purpose. Pre-Trib says there'll be another resurrection "Trumpet" 7 years after Jesus takes His people to Heaven. Pre-Trib says the Trumpet Paul mentions resurrects the Grace Age Church people ONLY, and the Trumpet Jesus mentions will resurrect Old Testament Saints and Tribulation Saints seven years afterwards at Jesus' Second Coming. If Pre-Tribbers are correct, they are actually saying, "Nay Paul! Thou Art Wrong Again! You should have never written Last Trump!" Pre-Tribbers would have to contend that Paul should have written, "next-to-the-last Trump." But Jesus and Paul were NOT wrong!! Paul's Trumpet IS the Last Trump, EXACTLY as he said, and it is the SAME Trumpet Jesus told us about! See Is there a Pre-Trib Rapture.
View 20 -Death Swallowed in Victory?
Pre-Trib claims the following is a Pre-Trib Rapture text: "We shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump" (1Cor.15:51-52). After Paul wrote about "All being changed...at the Last Trump," he said something else that would happen at that same time. He wrote, "then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is Swallowed up in Victory" (Vs.54). Pre-Trib says Paul was wrong about the "Last Trump," thus, they have no choice but to say Paul was wrong about Death being "Swallowed up in Victory" at that Last Trump." Death cannot be "Swallowed up in Victory," if, as Pre-Trib says, the Tribulation happens after this event! Pre-Trib says that after the "Last Trump" Paul wrote about, there'll be another "Trumpet" and another Resurrection. Pre-Trib also says there'll be some who die during what they call the, "Millennial Kingdom." If Pre-Trib is correct, instead of , "Death being Swallowed up in Victory," there will be an additional 1007 years of people dying! Is Pre-Trib disagreeing with Paul? Is Pre-Trib saying again, "Nay Paul!! Thou art Wrong!" (The Bible speaks of ONLY 2 Resurrections. One will happen at the beginning of the thousand years, and other at the end. The First Resurrection for the righteous and second for the wicked. See Rev.20:4-7).
Paul said that when Jesus comes to take His people to Heaven, there'd be a "Last Trump." Pre-Trib says, however, that after the Trumpet Paul prophesied, there'll be yet another "Trump," and that Trump will serve the same purpose. Pre-Trib says there'll be another resurrection "Trumpet" 7 years after Jesus takes His people to Heaven. Pre-Trib says the Trumpet Paul mentions resurrects the Grace Age Church people ONLY, and the Trumpet Jesus mentions will resurrect Old Testament Saints and Tribulation Saints seven years afterwards at Jesus' Second Coming. If Pre-Tribbers are correct, they are actually saying, "Nay Paul! Thou Art Wrong Again! You should have never written Last Trump!" Pre-Tribbers would have to contend that Paul should have written, "next-to-the-last Trump." But Jesus and Paul were NOT wrong!! Paul's Trumpet IS the Last Trump, EXACTLY as he said, and it is the SAME Trumpet Jesus told us about! See Is there a Pre-Trib Rapture.
View 20 -Death Swallowed in Victory?
View 21 - When Will Paul Receive His Crown?
Paul wrote, “I charge thee, before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick [living] and the dead at His Appearing and His Kingdom” (2Tim. 4:1). “Henceforth there is
laid up for me a CROWN of Righteousness, which the Lord, the Righteous Judge, shall give me at that DAY; and not to me only, but unto all them also that love His Appearing” (Vs.8). What “Day” did Paul mean? He said the DAY of Christ's “Appearing and His Kingdom.” Poor Paul! Pre-Tribbers disagree with him again and again! They say Paul will receive his crown 7 years BEFORE Christ's, "Appearing and His Kingdom." Pre-Trib says Jesus does not make an "Appearing" when He comes to Rapture His people to Heaven. They say the "Appearing" will happen 7 years later when He comes at His Second Coming. Pre-Trib also says it is at this "Appearing" that Jesus sets up His Kingdom, and that this is 7 years after He resurrected Paul and the other "Grace Age Church People.' So, Paul says he, and all who love Christ's Appearing, will get their Crowns at Christ's "Appearing and His Kingdom." We agree with Paul! What would Paul say if he knew the fastest growing, most popular movement within Christianity is completely disagreeing with, and reversing, so many things he wrote in his letters to the Churches? See, "Paul's Crown." View 22 -First Resurrection?
Exploring this subject brings up several Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Questions. Pre-Trib says the Millennial Kingdom of God is specifically for fulfilling promises made to the Jews and that these promises can only be fulfilled while the Jews are still mortals, thus it stands to reason that those in charge of this Kingdom will have to be mortal Jews; Jews that have NOT died and have NOT been resurrected. However, this is exactly the opposite of what John saw! He was shown people in the Kingdom with high responsibilities that had been killed ("Beheaded") for resisting Antichrist during the Tribulation. Let's look:
"And I saw THRONES, and they sat upon them, and JUDGMENT was given unto them; and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and who had not worshipped the Beast (Antichrist), neither his image, neither had received his Mark in their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived (were resurrected) and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection; on such the second death hath no power, but they [those in the first resurrection] shall be Priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years" (Rev.20:4-6)!
Pre-Trib's View about this says, "Nay John!! Thou art also WRONG"
Pre-Tribbers say John's Vision cannot happen! They say that the ONLY people in the "First Resurrection" are Grace Age Church People, and that Antichrist will NOT have been allowed to work or inflict his Mark of the Beast on anyone until AFTER the First Resurrection. Anyone reading John's vision here cannot help but see Pre-Trib's Contradictory View.
Some Pre-Tribbers claim that immortals and mortals mix and mingle during the Millennium, and that immortal Raptured Church people will be in charge of the Kingdom. Their reasoning self-destructs. If persons other than Jews are in charge of God's Kingdom, then the Kingdom is not a fulfillment of Old Testament Promises to the Jews. If, on the other hand, mortal Jews are in charge of the Kingdom of God, what part will the immortal Church people, the Bride of Christ, have in the Kingdom? One need only to read a little from Pre-Tribber's "Mix and Mingle" view and it becomes clear they have created for themselves another Un-Answerable Question!
Solution
We must simply believe what John prophesied. There will be only one Resurrection of the righteous saved, and that Resurrection occurs after the Tribulation, and after that Resurrection many will reign with Christ as Priests.
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23 -How Many Resurrections? We touched on this in several previous sections. Jesus and John say there'll be two resurrections; one for the Righteous and one for the Wicked. The one for the Righteous happens at the Second Coming. The one for the lost wicked is at the end of the thousand years. But, Pre-Trib says there'll be at least three resurrections for good people. Pre-Trib says there'll be one at the Rapture, one at the Second Coming at the end of the Tribulation, and one at the end of an Earthly Millennial Kingdom. Pre-Tribbers are not in agreement as what happens to the good people who die during the Millennium. They are also not certain about old people who enter that Earthly Millennial Kingdom. Do these old people stay old people throughout the entire thousand years? And what about the Old Testament Saints? Pre-Trib says they cannot be part of the Bride of Christ because these must come from what Pre-Trib calls the "Grace Age." Do all of these Old Testament Saint remain in their graves when Jesus comes to take His people to Heaven? Pre-Trib says they do. And if the Old Testament Saints are not raised till after the Tribulation, where do they go ad what do they do when they are resurrected? Do they go to Heaven, or do they stay here on earth for the Millennial Kingdom since most of them will most likely be Jews? All of these Un-Answerable Questions can be multiplied many times over when we add in the mass confusion of claiming that all dead people are already in Heaven or Hell at the present time! Confusion begets Confusion!! For a closer look at what the Bible says happens at Death, see "Are the Dead Dead or Alive? There we look at, "Absent from the Body - Present with the Lord."
View 24 - Ezekiel's Temple Vision
Pre-Tribbers create a great many inconsistencies for themselves as they try to place Ezekiel's Temple into an Earthly Millennial Kingdom. These inconsistencies are more than sufficient to cast serious doubt on the while View that Ezekiel saw a vision of a Temple in use after Christ's sacrificial death. Their problems here have to do with several issues. These issues include animal sacr
ificing, who are the priests, and who'll be the Prince or Governor of Israel. There are eight such issues that Pre-Tribbers simply cannot overcome as they attempt to place Ezekiel's Temple after the Second Coming of Jesus. To see these 8 Un-Answerable Questions about the Temple, see Ezekiel's Temple. We'll briefly look at one of these 8 Un-Answerable Questions below:
View 25 -Priests in the Millennium?
This Un-Answerable Question is actually 3 questions. We looked at a text earlier in which John saw people who had been "Beheaded" during the Tribulation, raised in the "First Resurrection," and then given positions of honor while "Reigning with Christ a 1000 years."
This prophecy from John totally disagrees with Pre-Trib on 3 counts.
First, they claim the Tribulation occurs AFTER the First Resurrection.
Second, the Priests in Ezekiel's Temple are MORTALS, thus they've not died and been resurrected.
Third, John saw Millennial Priests from all Nations, not just Jews from the Tribe of Levi. John wrote concerning the Priests he saw, "Thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth"(Rev.5:9-10).
However, in contrast to what John saw, Ezekiel wrote, "But the priests, the Levites the sons of Zadok, who kept the charge of My sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from Me, they shall come near to Me to minister unto Me, and they shall stand before Me to offer unto Me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord God" (Ez.44:15). Obviously John and Ezekiel saw 2 entirely different visions; different Priests in 2 entirely different times! Pre-Tribbers do not explain this discrepancy! The most glaring discrepancy for Pre-Trib is the Animal Sacrificing in Ezekiel's Temple
Animal Sacrifices?
A huge Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib is the fact that Ezekiel's Temple clearly makes provision for Animals being Sacrificed. Throughout the New Testament it is repeated over and again that there are to be NO MORE animal sacrifices after Jesus died. This is another debate among Pre-Tribbers. Some say there'll be no sacrificing animals in Ezekiel's Temple. These Pre-Tribbers are faced with the problem of explaining why Ezekiel wrote extensively about Sacrificing. Other Pre-Tribbers say there will sacrificing, and it will be a commemoration of Christ's Death. Since the Bible is clear that Ezekiel's Temple was for Old Testament ONLY, we'll leave Pre-Tribbers to work out their differences for themselves.
Other issues concerning Ezekiel's Temple include Pre-Tribbers claiming that David will be the "Prince" of Israel during this so-called Earthly Millennial Kingdom. In other word, David, an immortal person, will be the Governor over mortal Jews. Also, Ezekiel described the Jews having slaves! He described mentally impaired people among the Jews! He mentioned Priests marrying and dying! Would all this be happening in a Kingdom set up by Jesus? These Temple issues make it abundantly clear that Ezekiel's Temple CANNOT be in any Millennial Kingdom with Jesus in charge! Ezekiel's Temple can ONLY be in Old Testament Times. We invite our Readers to carefully examine all 8 of the Un-Answerable Questions Pre-Trib creates by trying to place Ezekiel's Temple in a Millennial Kingdom by visiting Website, "Ezekiel's Temple is NOT Millennial."
View 26 -Gog and Magog - WHEN
As to when the Battle occurs, all Pre-Tribbers agree that it will be at the end of the thousand years. Revelation says it will, but, Pre-Tribbers apply many Gog and Magog events to Armageddon, which happens before Jesus' Second Coming. Pre-Tribbers claim Russia is Magog, thus Russia will be the principle Nation attacking Jerusalem at the end of the Millennium. But, Pre-Trib also claims Russia will be the main Nation attacking Jerusalem just prior to the beginning of the Millennium. Pre-Trib makes another contention that makes it very difficult, if not impossible, for Russia to fit into both battles. For now we say that Pre-Trib creates for itself an Un-Answerable Question by trying to applying Gog and Magog Prophecies to Armageddon. Now let's look at something Jesus said that causes serious problems with Pre-Trib's version of Gog and Magog.
View 27 - Christ's Sheep and Goat Prophecy
When His Disciples asked Jesus about the Tribulation and the "end of the World" (Matt.24:3), He sat with them on the Mount of Olives and gave them many details. Explaining the Judgment, Jesus gave an Illustration/Parable/Prophecy using "Sheep and Goats." His explanation was lengthy (Matt.25:31-46), so we will not reproduce it all here. We have a Blogsite, Pre-Trib and the Sheep and Goats, in which we carefully examine the multipile Un-Answerable Questions Pre-Trib creates for itself by claiming Jesus neglected to mention that, instead of there being 2 groups, the Sheep and the Goats, there are 3 Groups. The third group, says Pre-Trib, is made up of the Saved Jews. These Saved Jews, say Pre-Tribbers, are the only reason Jesus sets up a Millennial Kingdom here on Earth. There is not room here to show how that, adding a 3rd Nation to the Sheep and Goats would completely destroy everything Jesus was trying to illustrate. Not only does Pre-Trib's version reverse the very words of Jesus, Pre-Trib's version self destructs Pre-Trib's interpretation of the Millennium.
Pre-Trib is divided into 2 groups concerning their version of the Sheep and Goats. They all contend that the Kingdom of God is specifically for fulfilling the promises to the Jews during Old Testament times, but are divided as to how Non-Jewish people fit into this Earthly Millennial Kingdom. One group says when Jesus divides the, "Sheep from the Goats" (Matt.25), the Goats are individual Gentiles that were unkind to the Jews during the Tribulation, and the Sheep are individual Gentiles treating the Jews kindly during the Tribulation. The opposing Pre-Trib group says the Goats are whole Gentile Nations whose leaders persecuited the Jews during the Tribulation, and the Sheep are whole Gentile Nations that were kind to the Jews during the Tribulation. Both groups say that ALL of the Goats will be condemned and sent to Hell at the beginning of the Millennium. Pre-Trib says the Jews are NOT included in either the Sheep or the Goats. If the Reader is familiar with Christ's Sheep and Goat illustration, it will be clear how both groups of Pre-Trib have totally misapplied the illustration entirely. Again, see Blogsite Sheep and Goats for more detail. Also see Satan's Millennial Kingdom, Gog and Magog, Ezekiel's Temple, and God's Millennial Kingdom.
View 28 - Pre-Trib's Connection to Israel
Dear Reader, if you are an enthusiastic Pre-Trib Believer, you've discussed much about the Millennial Kingdom and Israel ruling all the other nations for a thousand years. You may have been concerned about the REAL message Jewish people hear in Pre-Trib Sermons. If today's Jews listen to Popular TV and Radio Ministers, they hear the following: "The Millennial Kingdom will be the time when God fulfills all of His Old Testament Promises and Prophecies. The Rapture will happen at any moment, thus, 7 years later, the Second Coming will occur when Jesus rewards you Jews! Perhaps you'll become one of the 144 Thousand and be one of those with a responsible position in the Millennial Kingdom! It'll be the GREATEST time EVER for your Jewish Nation!! Be joyful! Your Glorious Day is almost here! Your beloved King David will be your Governor in Israel, and Jesus will be your King, and the King of the whole World. Under His Kingship, you Jews will hold the highest positions of power on Earth!! The entire Earth will be a Grand and Glorious Paradise, and it'll be yours for a 1000 years!!"
In his research, this Author has listening carefully to thousands Pre-Trib sermons from top Pre-Trib Ministers, carefully studied the Book, "Things to Come" by Dwight Pentecost, carefully examined the works of John Walvoord, continually studies the footnotes of his Scofield Study Bible, and the above is an abbreviated message that comes through. Perhaps you've noticed the same. If there's really going to be a Millennial Kingdom especially for the Jews, the above would be correct. But let's follow up with more the Jewish listener would pick up if he wanted to be in that Millennial Kingdom designed for his Nation of Israel: "If you, as a Jew, truly have a burning desire to be in that Grand and Glorious Kingdom that'll be God's fulfillment of His Promises to you, and if you want to be a member of the 144 Thousand Evangelists during the Tribulation, and help be responsible for an "Un-Numbered Multitude"(Rev.7:9) of converts, you must temporarily reject Jesus as your Savior. If you're a Christian, you'll be Raptured 7 years before the Millennial Kingdom, and you'll not be here during the Tribulation. The 144 Thousand will be Left Behind at the Rapture because they will be rejecting Jesus at that time. So, it may be to your advantage to hold off! You might want to continue rejecting Jesus till after the Rapture!" You may have recognized the possibility of Jews getting these mixed signals and may have adjusted your conversations so as to not imply anything like this. However, sending out any message that there's safety in rejecting Jesus is worst than WRONG! Could it cause many Jews to be eternally lost? In fact, if the Jewish Millennial Kingdom is NOT correct, and all the Bible evidence this Author has studied shows it completely wrong, obviously Satan himself would benefit GREATLY if the Jews believed it! Throughout all Pre-Trib Churches we hear how God, "Blesses them that Bless Israel." But what if these messages are for the Jews before they killed Jesus? And what if Jesus really meant it when He said to the Jews, "The Kingdom of God is taken from you and given to a Nation bearing fruit" (Matt.21:43). What about Jesus saying to the Jerusalem Jews, "Your house is left unto you desolate" (Matt. 23:38)!
Too often today's Pre-Trib Sermons sound like a Commercial to the Jews to be sure to do whatever it takes to be in this Millennial Kingdom. Are our Popular Preachers telling them, "Hang in there!! God is on the verge of giving you Jews the rewards He promised you in the Old Testament!!" Instead of glamorizing a life available to those "Left Behind," and telling the Jews to get ready for a "Millennial Kingdom," shouldn't we be warning them that they must prepare for Jesus to come. Instead of encouraging the Jews to be prepared to be "Left Behind," why not tell them to accept Jesus as their Savior and go to the "mansions He has prepared for them" (see Jn.14:1-3).
Someday some of the honest High Profile Pre-Trib Ministers, and a great many honest Pastors with small, medium, and large congregations, and laymen who want to help other prepare for Jesus to come, will earnestly seek guidance from God's Holy Spirit, and when this happens, whole Churches will begin, "Preaching the REAL Gospel of the REAL Kingdom to all the world, for a Witness unto all nations, and then shall the END come" (Matt.24:14)! The Point to Ponder here is, shouldn't we be telling the Jews, and all the world, that when Jesus comes, His "Reward will be with Him, to give to EVERY man according as his work shall be" (Rev.22:12)! Should we be proclaiming that there'll be those "Left Behind," alive to set up a Millennial Kingdom, if Jesus is going to proclaim, "Let him that is Unjust be Unjust still - Let him who is Filthy be Filthy still" (Rev. 22:11) just before He returns to take His people to Heaven? Shouldn't we be telling the Jews that, if the they want to be in the Kingdom of God, they must believe in Jesus NOW, ASAP, just the same as we tell Gentiles?
View 29 - Gog and Magog ALL Nations?
ificing, who are the priests, and who'll be the Prince or Governor of Israel. There are eight such issues that Pre-Tribbers simply cannot overcome as they attempt to place Ezekiel's Temple after the Second Coming of Jesus. To see these 8 Un-Answerable Questions about the Temple, see Ezekiel's Temple. We'll briefly look at one of these 8 Un-Answerable Questions below:View 25 -Priests in the Millennium?
This Un-Answerable Question is actually 3 questions. We looked at a text earlier in which John saw people who had been "Beheaded" during the Tribulation, raised in the "First Resurrection," and then given positions of honor while "Reigning with Christ a 1000 years."
This prophecy from John totally disagrees with Pre-Trib on 3 counts. First, they claim the Tribulation occurs AFTER the First Resurrection.
Second, the Priests in Ezekiel's Temple are MORTALS, thus they've not died and been resurrected.
Third, John saw Millennial Priests from all Nations, not just Jews from the Tribe of Levi. John wrote concerning the Priests he saw, "Thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by Thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth"(Rev.5:9-10).
However, in contrast to what John saw, Ezekiel wrote, "But the priests, the Levites the sons of Zadok, who kept the charge of My sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from Me, they shall come near to Me to minister unto Me, and they shall stand before Me to offer unto Me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord God" (Ez.44:15). Obviously John and Ezekiel saw 2 entirely different visions; different Priests in 2 entirely different times! Pre-Tribbers do not explain this discrepancy! The most glaring discrepancy for Pre-Trib is the Animal Sacrificing in Ezekiel's Temple
Animal Sacrifices?
A huge Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib is the fact that Ezekiel's Temple clearly makes provision for Animals being Sacrificed. Throughout the New Testament it is repeated over and again that there are to be NO MORE animal sacrifices after Jesus died. This is another debate among Pre-Tribbers. Some say there'll be no sacrificing animals in Ezekiel's Temple. These Pre-Tribbers are faced with the problem of explaining why Ezekiel wrote extensively about Sacrificing. Other Pre-Tribbers say there will sacrificing, and it will be a commemoration of Christ's Death. Since the Bible is clear that Ezekiel's Temple was for Old Testament ONLY, we'll leave Pre-Tribbers to work out their differences for themselves.
Other issues concerning Ezekiel's Temple include Pre-Tribbers claiming that David will be the "Prince" of Israel during this so-called Earthly Millennial Kingdom. In other word, David, an immortal person, will be the Governor over mortal Jews. Also, Ezekiel described the Jews having slaves! He described mentally impaired people among the Jews! He mentioned Priests marrying and dying! Would all this be happening in a Kingdom set up by Jesus? These Temple issues make it abundantly clear that Ezekiel's Temple CANNOT be in any Millennial Kingdom with Jesus in charge! Ezekiel's Temple can ONLY be in Old Testament Times. We invite our Readers to carefully examine all 8 of the Un-Answerable Questions Pre-Trib creates by trying to place Ezekiel's Temple in a Millennial Kingdom by visiting Website, "Ezekiel's Temple is NOT Millennial."
View 26 -Gog and Magog - WHEN
As to when the Battle occurs, all Pre-Tribbers agree that it will be at the end of the thousand years. Revelation says it will, but, Pre-Tribbers apply many Gog and Magog events to Armageddon, which happens before Jesus' Second Coming. Pre-Tribbers claim Russia is Magog, thus Russia will be the principle Nation attacking Jerusalem at the end of the Millennium. But, Pre-Trib also claims Russia will be the main Nation attacking Jerusalem just prior to the beginning of the Millennium. Pre-Trib makes another contention that makes it very difficult, if not impossible, for Russia to fit into both battles. For now we say that Pre-Trib creates for itself an Un-Answerable Question by trying to applying Gog and Magog Prophecies to Armageddon. Now let's look at something Jesus said that causes serious problems with Pre-Trib's version of Gog and Magog.
View 27 - Christ's Sheep and Goat Prophecy
Pre-Trib is divided into 2 groups concerning their version of the Sheep and Goats. They all contend that the Kingdom of God is specifically for fulfilling the promises to the Jews during Old Testament times, but are divided as to how Non-Jewish people fit into this Earthly Millennial Kingdom. One group says when Jesus divides the, "Sheep from the Goats" (Matt.25), the Goats are individual Gentiles that were unkind to the Jews during the Tribulation, and the Sheep are individual Gentiles treating the Jews kindly during the Tribulation. The opposing Pre-Trib group says the Goats are whole Gentile Nations whose leaders persecuited the Jews during the Tribulation, and the Sheep are whole Gentile Nations that were kind to the Jews during the Tribulation. Both groups say that ALL of the Goats will be condemned and sent to Hell at the beginning of the Millennium. Pre-Trib says the Jews are NOT included in either the Sheep or the Goats. If the Reader is familiar with Christ's Sheep and Goat illustration, it will be clear how both groups of Pre-Trib have totally misapplied the illustration entirely. Again, see Blogsite Sheep and Goats for more detail. Also see Satan's Millennial Kingdom, Gog and Magog, Ezekiel's Temple, and God's Millennial Kingdom.
View 28 - Pre-Trib's Connection to Israel
Dear Reader, if you are an enthusiastic Pre-Trib Believer, you've discussed much about the Millennial Kingdom and Israel ruling all the other nations for a thousand years. You may have been concerned about the REAL message Jewish people hear in Pre-Trib Sermons. If today's Jews listen to Popular TV and Radio Ministers, they hear the following: "The Millennial Kingdom will be the time when God fulfills all of His Old Testament Promises and Prophecies. The Rapture will happen at any moment, thus, 7 years later, the Second Coming will occur when Jesus rewards you Jews! Perhaps you'll become one of the 144 Thousand and be one of those with a responsible position in the Millennial Kingdom! It'll be the GREATEST time EVER for your Jewish Nation!! Be joyful! Your Glorious Day is almost here! Your beloved King David will be your Governor in Israel, and Jesus will be your King, and the King of the whole World. Under His Kingship, you Jews will hold the highest positions of power on Earth!! The entire Earth will be a Grand and Glorious Paradise, and it'll be yours for a 1000 years!!"
In his research, this Author has listening carefully to thousands Pre-Trib sermons from top Pre-Trib Ministers, carefully studied the Book, "Things to Come" by Dwight Pentecost, carefully examined the works of John Walvoord, continually studies the footnotes of his Scofield Study Bible, and the above is an abbreviated message that comes through. Perhaps you've noticed the same. If there's really going to be a Millennial Kingdom especially for the Jews, the above would be correct. But let's follow up with more the Jewish listener would pick up if he wanted to be in that Millennial Kingdom designed for his Nation of Israel: "If you, as a Jew, truly have a burning desire to be in that Grand and Glorious Kingdom that'll be God's fulfillment of His Promises to you, and if you want to be a member of the 144 Thousand Evangelists during the Tribulation, and help be responsible for an "Un-Numbered Multitude"(Rev.7:9) of converts, you must temporarily reject Jesus as your Savior. If you're a Christian, you'll be Raptured 7 years before the Millennial Kingdom, and you'll not be here during the Tribulation. The 144 Thousand will be Left Behind at the Rapture because they will be rejecting Jesus at that time. So, it may be to your advantage to hold off! You might want to continue rejecting Jesus till after the Rapture!" You may have recognized the possibility of Jews getting these mixed signals and may have adjusted your conversations so as to not imply anything like this. However, sending out any message that there's safety in rejecting Jesus is worst than WRONG! Could it cause many Jews to be eternally lost? In fact, if the Jewish Millennial Kingdom is NOT correct, and all the Bible evidence this Author has studied shows it completely wrong, obviously Satan himself would benefit GREATLY if the Jews believed it! Throughout all Pre-Trib Churches we hear how God, "Blesses them that Bless Israel." But what if these messages are for the Jews before they killed Jesus? And what if Jesus really meant it when He said to the Jews, "The Kingdom of God is taken from you and given to a Nation bearing fruit" (Matt.21:43). What about Jesus saying to the Jerusalem Jews, "Your house is left unto you desolate" (Matt. 23:38)!
Too often today's Pre-Trib Sermons sound like a Commercial to the Jews to be sure to do whatever it takes to be in this Millennial Kingdom. Are our Popular Preachers telling them, "Hang in there!! God is on the verge of giving you Jews the rewards He promised you in the Old Testament!!" Instead of glamorizing a life available to those "Left Behind," and telling the Jews to get ready for a "Millennial Kingdom," shouldn't we be warning them that they must prepare for Jesus to come. Instead of encouraging the Jews to be prepared to be "Left Behind," why not tell them to accept Jesus as their Savior and go to the "mansions He has prepared for them" (see Jn.14:1-3).
Someday some of the honest High Profile Pre-Trib Ministers, and a great many honest Pastors with small, medium, and large congregations, and laymen who want to help other prepare for Jesus to come, will earnestly seek guidance from God's Holy Spirit, and when this happens, whole Churches will begin, "Preaching the REAL Gospel of the REAL Kingdom to all the world, for a Witness unto all nations, and then shall the END come" (Matt.24:14)! The Point to Ponder here is, shouldn't we be telling the Jews, and all the world, that when Jesus comes, His "Reward will be with Him, to give to EVERY man according as his work shall be" (Rev.22:12)! Should we be proclaiming that there'll be those "Left Behind," alive to set up a Millennial Kingdom, if Jesus is going to proclaim, "Let him that is Unjust be Unjust still - Let him who is Filthy be Filthy still" (Rev. 22:11) just before He returns to take His people to Heaven? Shouldn't we be telling the Jews that, if the they want to be in the Kingdom of God, they must believe in Jesus NOW, ASAP, just the same as we tell Gentiles?
View 29 - Gog and Magog ALL Nations?
Obviously if Pre-Trib says there'll be sinners and mortals in God's Kingdom, they say there'll be marriage in God's Kingdom and children born in God's Kingdom. In our Website, "Marriage in the Next Age," we cover the question of whether or not children will be born in God's Kingdom. If no sinners or mortals inherit, enter, or even see the Kingdom, and there'll be no marriage or giving in marriage, there'll be no children born during this time.
Pre-Trib's Rebuttal
Pre-Tribbers have what they THINK is an answer to this Question. At first the answer SEEMS to exonerate their position, but we'll show in another section that their Answer self destructs.
Satan's Army, the "Number is as the Sands of the Sea."
Scripture clearly says that at the end of the 1000 years, Satan finds an army, "the number of whom is as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8)! At first this seems to say that there'll be people born during the 1000 years, but not really! The Bible has a clear answer, but instead of verifying Pre-Tribbers position, it creates more Un-Answerable Questions. The answer the Bible gives fits like a glove to all other Scripture descriptions of the Millennium and leaves NO Un-Answered Questions. We'll give a hint of the Bible answer. At the end of the Millennium, John saw many things happen. Two of these things were the Wicked Dead Resurrected (Rev.20:13) and Satan Deceiving an Army, "the number of whom were as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8). Connecting those dots should be easy enough! See "Satan's Millennial Kingdom" and "Gog and Magog." In a later section we will deal with the Un-Answerable Question Gog and Magog causes for Pre-Trib. See Christ's Millennial Kingdom, Satan's Millennial Bottomless Pit Kingdom.
Pre-Trib's Rebuttal
Pre-Tribbers have what they THINK is an answer to this Question. At first the answer SEEMS to exonerate their position, but we'll show in another section that their Answer self destructs.
Satan's Army, the "Number is as the Sands of the Sea."
Scripture clearly says that at the end of the 1000 years, Satan finds an army, "the number of whom is as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8)! At first this seems to say that there'll be people born during the 1000 years, but not really! The Bible has a clear answer, but instead of verifying Pre-Tribbers position, it creates more Un-Answerable Questions. The answer the Bible gives fits like a glove to all other Scripture descriptions of the Millennium and leaves NO Un-Answered Questions. We'll give a hint of the Bible answer. At the end of the Millennium, John saw many things happen. Two of these things were the Wicked Dead Resurrected (Rev.20:13) and Satan Deceiving an Army, "the number of whom were as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8). Connecting those dots should be easy enough! See "Satan's Millennial Kingdom" and "Gog and Magog." In a later section we will deal with the Un-Answerable Question Gog and Magog causes for Pre-Trib. See Christ's Millennial Kingdom, Satan's Millennial Bottomless Pit Kingdom.
Pre-Tribbers say Gog and Magog is a reference to Russia, thus they contend that Satan's Army at the end of the 1000 years will be mostly Russian
. But, John says Satan's army comes from the, "Nations that are at the four quarters of earth" (Rev.20:8). "Four Quarters" means that if we divide earth into 4 parts, Satan's Army will come from "All Over the Earth." So, Gog and Magog cannot be Russia, but rather, ALL Nations from ALL around the earth. Pre-Trib says Ezekiel 38 and 39 proves that Russia is Gog and Magog. They also claim that this is describing a battle before
the Millennium, as well as the battle after the 1000 years. But John said the battle of, "Gog and Magog," happens AFTER the Millennium.
. But, John says Satan's army comes from the, "Nations that are at the four quarters of earth" (Rev.20:8). "Four Quarters" means that if we divide earth into 4 parts, Satan's Army will come from "All Over the Earth." So, Gog and Magog cannot be Russia, but rather, ALL Nations from ALL around the earth. Pre-Trib says Ezekiel 38 and 39 proves that Russia is Gog and Magog. They also claim that this is describing a battle before
the Millennium, as well as the battle after the 1000 years. But John said the battle of, "Gog and Magog," happens AFTER the Millennium.
In our Website, Gog and Magog, we show that Ezekiel's use of Gog and Magog actually tells where New Jerusalem will set on earth after the Millennium when it "Comes down from God out of Heaven" (Rev.21:2). Ezekiel's description tells where New Jerusalem will set and also gives evidence as to its size. When all of the Bible Prophecies about Gog and Magog are combined, we can know exactly where the lost Wicked will stand during the Great White Throne Judgment. John said New Jerusalem is 1364 miles across. He also says that the lost wicked that are resurrected at the end of the 1000 years will surround New Jerusalem (see Rev.20:9) thinking they are going to attack, but instead they'll find themselves looking up at the Great White Throne on Judgment Day.
View 30 - New Jerusalem or Old Jerusalem
Pre-Trib contends that at the end of the thousand years, Satan will be loosed from his Bottomless Pit and go out into God's Millennial Kingdom and recruit those who have been pretending to worship Jesus. Pre-Tribbers say that when Satan gathers his Army, they will go up and surround Old Jerusalem in preparation for an attack. Then, says Pre-Trib, God brings fire down from heaven and devours Satan's Army. A surface reading of the account recorded in Revelation 20:1-10 might appear to agree somewhat with Pre-Trib's interpretation. But, if we continue reading Verses 11-15, it becomes VERY clear that the Great White Throne Judgment occurs somewhere within that time period. Combine this with the fact that Jesus and Paul made it absolutely clear that there'll be NO Sinners or Mortals in Christ's Kingdom, EVER, we can easily see that John is NOT prophesying anything about Old Jerusalem. Combine this with the fact that John saw New Jerusalem, "coming down from God out of Heaven" at the end of the thousdand years, and we can know which Jerusalem will be surrounded by Satan and his army. Also the size of New Jerusalem, John said it is 1364 miles side to side and top to bottom, will fit perfectly onto the 8 Nations Ezekiel wrote about when he Prophesied concerning Gog and Magog! There can be only one conclusion. The Bible is clear that when Jesus comes the Sun will no longer give it's light, causing Earth to become a frozen Planet. If Earth will be frozen with no Sun until Jesus brings New Jerusalem here at the end of the thousand years, Old Jerusalem will be un-inhabitable. If we believe exactly what Ezekiel and John saw, there are NO Un-Answerable Questions and it all makes perfect sense and fits like a glove. Trying to alter these Prophecies by attempting to use Old Jerusalem causes multiple Un-Answerable Questions! For more Bible information, see "New Jerusalem's Size and Location." Also for more about Gog and Magog, "Gog and Magog."
View 30 - New Jerusalem or Old Jerusalem
Pre-Trib contends that at the end of the thousand years, Satan will be loosed from his Bottomless Pit and go out into God's Millennial Kingdom and recruit those who have been pretending to worship Jesus. Pre-Tribbers say that when Satan gathers his Army, they will go up and surround Old Jerusalem in preparation for an attack. Then, says Pre-Trib, God brings fire down from heaven and devours Satan's Army. A surface reading of the account recorded in Revelation 20:1-10 might appear to agree somewhat with Pre-Trib's interpretation. But, if we continue reading Verses 11-15, it becomes VERY clear that the Great White Throne Judgment occurs somewhere within that time period. Combine this with the fact that Jesus and Paul made it absolutely clear that there'll be NO Sinners or Mortals in Christ's Kingdom, EVER, we can easily see that John is NOT prophesying anything about Old Jerusalem. Combine this with the fact that John saw New Jerusalem, "coming down from God out of Heaven" at the end of the thousdand years, and we can know which Jerusalem will be surrounded by Satan and his army. Also the size of New Jerusalem, John said it is 1364 miles side to side and top to bottom, will fit perfectly onto the 8 Nations Ezekiel wrote about when he Prophesied concerning Gog and Magog! There can be only one conclusion. The Bible is clear that when Jesus comes the Sun will no longer give it's light, causing Earth to become a frozen Planet. If Earth will be frozen with no Sun until Jesus brings New Jerusalem here at the end of the thousand years, Old Jerusalem will be un-inhabitable. If we believe exactly what Ezekiel and John saw, there are NO Un-Answerable Questions and it all makes perfect sense and fits like a glove. Trying to alter these Prophecies by attempting to use Old Jerusalem causes multiple Un-Answerable Questions! For more Bible information, see "New Jerusalem's Size and Location." Also for more about Gog and Magog, "Gog and Magog."
View 31- God's Law In The Grace Age?
It is not only Pre-Trib that totally misapplies God's Law and Grace at the present time. Almost all of Christianity has fallen victim to Satan's Doctrine of Demons concerning Grace! It is commonly taught that Grace has annulled God's Law. Those teaching this have taken Paul's statement that we are not saved by the Law, but by Grace, and twisted it into saying something entirely opposed to anything and everything Paul wrote. We have a complete Website exploring this problem. See, "Dear Pastor! What About God's Law?" Scripture prophesies in hundreds of places that false prophets and false teachers will use deceit to teach the majority of Earth's inhabitants that disregarding and annulling God's Law is exactly what God wants us to do.
It is not only Pre-Trib that totally misapplies God's Law and Grace at the present time. Almost all of Christianity has fallen victim to Satan's Doctrine of Demons concerning Grace! It is commonly taught that Grace has annulled God's Law. Those teaching this have taken Paul's statement that we are not saved by the Law, but by Grace, and twisted it into saying something entirely opposed to anything and everything Paul wrote. We have a complete Website exploring this problem. See, "Dear Pastor! What About God's Law?" Scripture prophesies in hundreds of places that false prophets and false teachers will use deceit to teach the majority of Earth's inhabitants that disregarding and annulling God's Law is exactly what God wants us to do.
Pre-Trib Dispensationalism has brought this Law/Grace debate to a whole new level, however. Pre-Tribbers have at the heart of their entire system of beliefs, a Doctrine that divides the whole existence of human kind into 7 separate time periods. They call these time periods "Dispensations." They've developed a rather unique approach to the whole subject of Law and Grace. We'll not go into detail here, but briefly look at the Dispensations that Pre-Tribbers say deal with Law and Grace.
Moses to Jesus - Pre-Trib calls this time frame, Dispensation, "The Law Age." Pre-Tribbers contend that the 10 Commandments did not exist until God gave them to Moses.
Jesus to Rapture - Pre-Trib calls this Dispensation, "The Grace Age." Pre-Tribbers say that during this time, God requires His people to disregard His Law because, according to Pre-Trib, keeping the Law is an attempt to deny Grace.
Rapture to Second Coming - Pre-Trib says that this 7 year time period is the Great Tribulation. Pre-Trib actually includes this time period with their version of a Millennial Kingdom here on earth. They call these 2 time frames the "Kingdom Dispensation," and, believe it or not, they contend that God changes His expectations and requires His people to revert back to the rules of the "Law Age." In other words, instead of requiring His people to disregard His 10 Commandments, God requires them to obey them. Confused?? You have every right to be. Let's leave Pre-Tribbers here with their Un-Answerable Question of why they think God changes His mind back and forth about His Law and His Grace. Later in this Website we will show from Scripture how Satan will use this EXACT error to set up his Mark of the Beast!! This fact will become clear as we look at how the so-called Grace Age affects how the Sabbath has been discarded by the vast majority of Christians.
View 32 -God's Sabbath and the Grace Age?
The Knowledgeable Dispensationalist will declare that, IF there is no such thing as a, "Grace Age," Christians should now, at the present time, be obeying the Sabbath Commandment. Dispensational Textbooks and Study Bibles declare that all Christian Believers will be keeping the Sabbath Commandment just before Jesus' Second Coming during the Tribulation. These Textbooks and Bibles say that the, "Church" will continue honoring Sunday as the, "Lord's Day" until the very day they are, "Snatched Away" (Raptured) to Heaven. The Un-Answerable part of Pre-Tribber's view on this is the fact that they accuse God of demanding His people disobey His Sabbath Commandment one day, and the very next day, the day after He, "Snatches them Away," God does a complete about face and demands obedience to His Sabbath Commandment. For our most comprehensive study of this see "Is There Really a Pre-Trib Rapture?" and "The Rapture and Sabbath Connection."
View 33 -Sabbath in the Tribulation?
This is a continuation of the previous Un-Answerable Question and it carries the same inconsistency. Pre-Tribbers declare emphatically that Sabbath observance at this present time is not only unnecessary, it is "Legalism!" Some say it is a SIN to observe the Sabbath at the present time! According to Pre-Trib, disregarding the Sabbath was a sin from Moses till Jesus; then obeying the Sabbath Commandment now is a sin; and then, one day after a Rapture, disregarding the Sabbath is a sin again! Pre-Tribbers say that at this present time, Sabbath keeping is a form of denying Grace and trying to, "Work your way to Heaven through the Law!" Does God really flip-flop on the Sabbath Commandment? Pre-Trib says that for the first 2500 years after creation, God had no interest in a Sabbath, then for the next 1500 years God demanded Sabbath observance, then, after Christ's crucifixion, God demanded no Sabbath observance, only to reinstate it after He "Raptures" His "Church." Confusing? Does this sound like something God would really do? Or, does this sound exactly like something Satan could use in his attempt to make God look "Wishy-Washy?" Satan's goal has always been to attack God's Character in every way possible. God has promised us that He is Lord and He "Changes Not!" We must stress again that this Sabbath/Sunday Confusion is exactly what the Bible says Satan will use for his Mark of the Beast.
View 34 - Sabbath in the Millennium?
Dispensational Textbooks and Bible Footnotes claim that there will be an Earthly Millennial Kingdom, and that during this 1000 years, the entire earth will be obeying the Sabbath Commandment; the seventh day Sabbath, which we now call Saturday. They base this on the following Bible Verse: "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh (everybody) come to worship before Me saith the Lord" (Isa. 66:23). It is true that the Sabbath will be kept during the Millennium, but the Bible Verse Pre-Tribbers quote as proof doesn't fit the Millennium. Notice the verse just before it. "For as the New Heavens and New Earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain" (Vs. 22). Thus their proof text is NOT the Millennium at all. It is showing that the Sabbath will be kept throughout Eternity, after Jesus creates the New Earth.
Pre-Tribbers claim that, since there's no absolute Scripture showing the Sabbath being kept by God's people before Moses, there was no Sabbath during this time. This Author believes that from Creation till this present time God has designed for His people to observe the Sabbath. Scripture is clear that it will be kept throughout Eternity. In fact, this Author believes that there has been a Sabbath, in some form, all the way back into eternity past. In other words, as long as God has existed, which is forever back with no beginning, the Sabbath has existed.
It is a huge mystery how 98% of Christians believe God wants them to disregard the Sabbath at this time. If this whole notion is a lie, if God DOES NOT demand we disobey the Sabbath Commandment at this time, then it's extremely obvious that Satan has done his homework very, very well. He's proved himself to be the Master Deceiver.
View 35 -What Day is Israel's Sabbath?
This is actually one Question that does NOT create an Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib. Pre-Tribbers will say emphatically that Saturday, the Seventh Day of the Week is now the Sabbath! They'll declare that it has been since the 10 Commandments were given. They'll say that Saturday, the Sabbath, will be observed as Christ's Holy Worship Day throughout the Millennium. Pre-Tribbers will also declare that, if the Church and Israel are the same, then we Christians should be Observing the Sabbath now as their Worship Day! But, Pre-Trib says that the Church is completely separate from Israel. If the Church truly is completely separate from Israel with a separate purpose and a separate worship day, Sunday, then Pre-Trib might have a point and a purpose. But, if the Church is an extension of Israel, an extension that should be observing God's Sabbath Commandment now, Pre-Trib is pointing people away from obeying God. If disregarding and disobeying God's Commandments and teaching others to do so also is the Mark of the Beast, the problem is all too obvious!!! Could Satan be setting up the Church for Antichrist? Be sure to check out our Link Is the Church Israel. Also see The Bride of Christ.
View 36 - The Sabbath and Antichrist
The reason we include this Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Question is because there are dozens of Rapture Movies that have been made by Pre-Trib Promoters over the past 30 years, and not one EVER mentions Antichrist's connection to the Sabbath. This Author has seen all of these movies; at least the ones that have been available for the general public. He has purchased copies of these movies and watched each of them several times. This was done to research everything that Pre-Trib has made available. This does not include all of the Pro-Pre-Trib books because there are simply too many. Why is it strange that Pre-Trib Movies NEVER mention the Sabbath? It is strange because almost every time the Bible makes mention of Antichrist, there is a direct or indirect connection to God's Law and the fact that Antichrist will be in an all out war against God's Law and the people that obey it.
We can answer the question as to why Pre-Trib movies and books do not tell how Antichrist will make war on God's people because they "Keep the Commandments of God and have the Testimony and Faith of Jesus Christ" (See Rev.12:17 and 14:12). The reason is obvious really! Focusing on Antichrist's Anti-Sabbath/Anti-Commandment last-day war magnifies the fact that God's Sabbath will be the line of demarcation during the Tribulation. If this fact became a serious subject of discussion among Christians, it would soon be clear that God is NOT requiring present day Christians to disobey His Sabbath Commandment. So, this is not so much an Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Tribbers. It is a subject for which they'd simply rather not talk about. In a moment we will look closer at this when we come to Pre-Trib's HUGE Un-Answerable Question about the Mark of the Beast. When Prophesying about Antichrist, Daniel wrote, "And he shall think to change Times and Laws" (Dan.7:25)! There is only one part of God's Law dealing with "Time." That is of course the Sabbath Commandment. In our Website called "Antichrist's Sabbath" we show from the Bible that Antichrist has ALREADY attempted to "Change God's Time Law."
View 37 - Who Are The Elect?
We will continue looking at Antichrist in a moment, but first we need to establish who Antichrist will REALLY be targeting during the Tribulation. Pre-Trib Textbooks and Study Bibles say the Elect is Israel and NOT the Church. However, in Pre-Trib sermons and literature you'll find the Church referred to as the Elect. Pre-Tribbers need to make up their minds because Antichrist and Satan will direct all of their evil persecution at the Elect. It will be their sole purpose to cause each and every person within the Elect to either give up their determination to obey God and His Commandments or "be killed" (See Rev.13:15) Jesus, Peter, James, and Paul referred to the Church as the Elect.
Jesus said that Satan's and Antichrist's last day deceptions would be so powerful that, "if it were possible, even the VERY ELECT would be deceived" (Matt.24:24)! Pre-Trib tries to say that this "ELECT" Jesus refers to is Israel and not the Church. This creates their Un-Answerable Question because Peter wrote a letter to the Church and called them the, "ELECT according to the foreknowledge of God, the Father" (1Pet.1:2).
James wrote the following to the Church: “James, a servant of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, to the TWELVE TRIBES which are scattered abroad, greeting” (Js.1:1). Paul called the Church the Elect in each of the following Texts: Rom.8:33; Tit.1:1; Col.3:12; 1Tim. 5:21. Paul's most profound statement connection the Elect, Israel, to the Church is the following: "If ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:29). If the Elect is going to be Antichrist's and Satan's focus during the Tribulation, and the Church IS the Elect, the Church needs to stop pretending they'll be Raptured Away before the Tribulation. The Church needs to heed the warnings Jesus gave them so that they'll be armed and prepared to defeat Satan and Antichrist!! Be sure to see The Bride of Christ and Is the Church Israel.
View 38 - New Covenant or New Testament
This Author doesn't particularly like "Gotcha Questions," but this particular Un-Answerable Question can be better understood if we use one of these. Go to any well educated Pre-Trib Minister and ask the following Question: "Is the Church (Our Church if you are a member of his Church) a New Testament Church?"
You'll get a VERY hearty answer: "Absolutely we are a New Testament Church! The entire portion of the Bible we believe in and teach is New Testament. This means we use the New Testament as our guide of Faith and Practice. The Old Testament uses the Law, but we New Testament Believers are no longer under the Law! We are under Grace!!"
Afterwards, or at a later time, ask the same Pre-Trib Minister the following: "How about the New Covenant? Are we a New Covenant Church?"
This time you will get an entirely different response. The Minister will respond with something like the following: "Well... sort of.., maybe...but NOT REALLY! Actually, the Church is NOT New Covenant. You see, the Church and Israel are completely different. Israel will be the real New Covenant believers, and they will be New Covenant starting in the Great Tribulation after we have been Raptured away to Heaven. Seven years after we are Raptured, Jesus will come to Earth and set up His Millennial Kingdom. This Kingdom will be God rewarding His people Israel. Jesus will be King. The Jews will be the ruling Nation over all the Nations of the World and then, and ONLY then the New Covenant will be in effect and the Law of the whole World!"\
If the Reader is a member of a Pre-Trib congregation, and has not studied the difference between the New Testament and the New Covenant, the above may sound perfectly fine. If, however, the Reader has looked up the words "New Covenant" and "New Testament" in a Strong's Concordance Dictionary, he or she will be shocked at the Minister's answer! The word Covenant and the word Testament are from the exact same Greek word. The word is "Dia-the-ke." It is pronounced "Dee-ath-ay-kay."
So what Un-Answerable Question does this bring up for Pre-Trib? Pre-Tribbers, along with almost all Christians have developed a mindset that says the Old Testament represents repression from being under the Law, while the New Testament represents freedom because of being no longer the Law but under Grace. Most Christians have been continually told that they are free to disregard the Law. A study into the New Covenant, however, shows that the New Covenant represents having God's Law, "Written in their hearts and their inward parts" (See Jer.31:31-33 and Heb.8:8). Thus our popular Ministers try to separate the meaning of the New Testament and the New Covenant. They try to use the New Testament to show a moving away from God's Commandments, and, because of the Bible Prophecies concerning the New Covenant, they have to accept that the New Covenant represents moving back towards God's Law. The REAL Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Question will become VERY clear in the following section. Discover the Horrid consequences of declaring that the New Covenant is ONLY for a future generation of Jews, and not for the Church!
View 39 -New Covenant- For Israel or For the Church?
This Un-Answerable Question topples a huge Pre-Trib pillar Doctrine. Jesus made it clear at His Last Supper that when He comes back to take His people to the "place He prepared for them" (see Jn.14:1-3), ONLY New Covenant participants will go with Him to Heaven. He said that from that day on, when His Disciples would celebrate the Lord's Supper, it would commemorate 2 events. One would be His Death so that humankind could have salvation. The other would represent a future event in Heaven called "The Marriage Supper of the Lamb"(See Rev.19:7). He told His Disciples that He would NOT partake of this celebration meal until He did so with His New Covenant participants in His Father's His Kingdom is established. Underscore "In His Father's Kingdom" because Pre-Trib declares that the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will be for the Church that they say goes to Heaven 7 years BEFORE the Kingdom of God is established. And Pre-Trib's confusion gets worse! Pre-Tribbers claim that at the EXACT time this Marriage Supper occurs, EVERY person who will later become the New Covenant people of the Millennial Kingdom will not even be believes in Jesus! Let's look at what Jesus said and see that Pre-Trib says the complete opposite.
Marriage Supper is ONLY for New Covenant Participants!
"And He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to the Disciples (the Founders of His Church), and said, Drink ye all of it; For this is My Blood of the New Covenant (New Testament - KJV), which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will NOT drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day (the Day of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb) when I drink it new with you in My Father's Kingdom" (Matt.26:27-29). So what did Jesus say? Who do the Disciples represent? They are the Founders of Christ's Church, thus the New Covenant is directly for the Church. Pre-Trib says that Jesus will Rapture His Church to Heaven, and then celebrate the Marriage Supper of the Lamb with them because the Church is Christ's Bride. Pre-Trib says the "New Covenant Jews" are "Left Behind" when the Church/Bride is Raptured, because they do NOT believe in Jesus at that time. A simple reading of Christ's words above shows that the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will be for New Covenant Believers ONLY! A simple reading also shows that this Supper will take place in "His Father's Kingdom." Pre-Trib says the Kingdom of God does not begin until 7 years after they are Raptured to Heaven. Pre-Trib says the Kingdom of God it will not be in Heaven, but here on Earth. If the Reader is confused, you have every right to be. If the Reader doubts any part of what we present here, a simple study of the footnotes of the Scofield Bible or any Pre-Trib Study Bible will verify everything. Simply put, the New Covenant and the Church CANNOT be separated, and Pre-Trib trying to do so creates many Un-Answerable Questions for them.
The question of "Who is the Bride of Christ" introduces Pre-Trib's next Un-Answerable question. For more Bible proof and further discussion as to Israel's and the Church's relationship to the New Covenant, see Websites "Is the Church Israel" and "Christ's Bride" and "144 Thousand."
40 - Who is the Bride of Christ?
Not only does this Un-Answerable Question destroy a pillar Doctrine for Pre-Trib, it opens up a host of other difficulties for them. It has to do with the qualifications of the Bride. By its very name, Dispensationalism divides human history on earth into segments of TIME. Pre-Tribbers call these time segments Dispensations and claim there are 7. They tell us that the Bride of Christ are ONLY people that have lived in one of these seven Dispensations; the Grace Dispensation. Scripture, however, says EVERY SAVED person from Creation to the Second Coming of Jesus will be included in the Bride of Christ. Pre-Trib's so-called Grace Dispensation is said to be a time when God's people have permission to disregard God's Ten Commandments. Pre-Tribbers tell us that, "Grace Frees Us From the Law," during this so-called Grace Dispensation; also called Grace Age. In other words, according to Pre-Trib Dispensationalists, only one of the 7 Dispensations require people to disregard God's Law. Pre-Trib says that during all of the other 6 Dispensations, God requires Obedience.
Pre-Trib's Most Un-Believable Declaration!
Dear Reader, hold on to your seat!! According to Pre-Trib, the ONLY people who make up the Bride of Christ will be the people from the ONLY Dispensation in which Disobedience to God's Law is REQUIRED!! This is the one Dispensation that invented the Doctrine that, "Grace Frees Us to Disobey God's Law!" This is not just a little "oops" mistake from Pre-Trib. This Doctrine makes it appear that God rewards disobedience and punishes obedience. Does this notion have a ring similar to Satan telling Eve that disobedience would project her and Adam to being "As Gods" (Gen.3:12)? It's EXACTLY the same thing! Is it not just another re-cycled deceit from Satan? From the time Satan (Lucifer) first sinned in Heaven, his theme has been that disobedience brings good results and obedience brings bad results. This Author has many very good friends that are Pre-Tribbers. Hopefully these friends will examine this Pre-Trib Doctrine and reconsider their position. We don't want to offend, but the Doctrine stating that,"Grace Gives Us Permission to Disobey God's Law" is a Doctrine of Demons! Add to this the notion that the Bride of Christ must conform to this Doctrine of Demons, and with all due respect, BLASPHEMY is the only proper definition! Sadly almost all of Christianity claims that God insists we disregard God's Law. Even though there is a campaign throughout Christianity that we display the 10 Commandments in Government Buildings, when the subject of the Sabbath Commandment arises, these 10 Commandment Zealots suddenly become Commandment bashers! See our Link, The Bride of Christ. For more on Sabbath Observance being a sin, see "Is the Sabbath a Sin?"
View 41 -Who are The 144 Thousand?
Pre-Tribbers say that the 144 Thousand John prophesied about in Revelation will NOT be part of the Bride of Christ. They say that when Jesus takes His Bride (the Church) to Heaven, the 144 Thousand are still Non-Believers in Jesus! A careful study into the 144 Thousand shows that the 144 Thousand are actually the principle members of the Bride of Christ because they endure the worst Tribulation in the history of Planet Earth! But Pre-Trib says the 144 Thousand are "Left Behind" at the so-called Rapture because they are rejecting Jesus at that time. Pre-Trib goes on to say that the 144 Thousand NEVER qualify as part of the Bride, even though the 144 Thousand obey the very Ten Commandments Pre-Tribbers claim are impossible to obey. Again this points to the fact that Pre-Trib is promoting the notion that the people who refuse to obey God's Law are rewarded and the people who obey God's Law are punished. This is almost an exact copy of the words the Serpent in the Garden of Eden told Eve! In our Blogsite called, "The 144 Thousand," we show from Scripture that the 144 Thousand are by far the most qualified group of people who eventually participate in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Satan and Antichrist will make war on the 144 Thousand specifically because they obey God's Commandments! John introduces his most comprehensive revelation of Antichrist with the following: "And the Dragon (Satan) was wroth with the Woman and went to make war with the Remnant of her seed, who keep the Commandments of God, and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17)!
View 42 -When Antichrist Begins or Began?
Pre-Trib has created many Un-Answerable Questions concerning Antichrist. We will look at just a few, beginning with Antichrist's first appearance on the World scene. Let's look at a case scenario. Satan NEVER uses fair play in his attempts to deceive people, so, if there is at the present time, an Antichrist at work now setting up the masses in preparation for his last day Delusions, what do we think Satan would do in order help him. We can all agree that Satan would do all possible to inject into Christianity a set of beliefs declaring that Antichrist CANNOT begin his work until a later time; a later Dispensation, if you please. What if Satan could convince all Christians that they have NOTHING to fear concerning Antichrist, when in fact these Christians have already incorporated into their Doctrines EVERYTHING needed for them to accept and wear the Mark of the Beast? We have already touch on the fact that the Mark of the
Beast will be some form of "Annul God's Law." Later we will show from Scripture that the main thrust of the Mark of the Beast will be Antichrist's attempt to "Change Times and Laws" (Dan.7:25). We will show from Scripture that attempting to abolish God's Sabbath Commandment will be ground zero from Antichrist.
Scripture says the number of the Beast is 666 and is the "number of a man" (Rev. 13:18). Pre-Tribbers say that since the Bible says, "a man," Antichrist will be only one man. The Bible truth is, Antichrist has been around and working for over a 1000 years. By comparing Prophecy with Church history, it becomes completely clear that the Real Antichrist emerged in 538AD and then for the next 1260 years he dominated Europe and beyond. Paul made it clear that Antichrist would emerge when the Church "Apostatized." Paul wrote, "Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day (the Day Jesus comes to gather His people and take them to Heaven) shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY (Apostasy) first and that Man of Sin (Antichrist) be revealed, the son of perdition" (2Thess.2:3). Paul seems to be saying that when the Church "Falls Away," the Church actually becomes Antichrist. This idea that it is the "Church" itself that becomes Antichrist is abundantly clear if we look at each and every prophecy about Antichrist from Daniel, Paul, and John. In our Website, "When The Church Became Antichrist," we show over a dozen Prophecies from Scripture that prove beyond any possible doubt exactly who Antichrist is. We also show from Bible Prophecy and World History that the Church/Antichrist has already received his "Deadly Wound," and how that wound is healing in preparation for a "New World Order Church" that will be the final Antichrist just before Jesus Comes.
Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is the fact that the Bible is abundantly clear that the Dark Ages Church has already emerged as Antichrist, yet Pre-Trib insists that Antichrist CANNOT work until they have been Raptured. Again, the danger is for us to think Antichrist cannot work now, when in fact he has been duping masses of Christians for over 1500 years already! Check these other Websites that reveal much more Bible information about Antichrist: "70 Weeks of Daniel," Antichrist's Name, The Mark of the Beast, and The Great Whore of Revelation.
View 43 - Antichrist's Name "ANOMOS"?
This is an Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib because if they acknowledge that Paul actually called Antichrist by a Name that reveals the Mark of the Beast, and also reveals that Antichrist will be in a all out war against God's Law and God's people because they, "Keep the Commandments of God and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17)! In all of Pre-Trib's Bibles, Books, Literature, and Movies, they have been very careful to reveal as little as possible about the fact that Antichrist's war is against those who obey God's Commandments. Pre-Tribbers that have truly and carefully studied Pre-Trib Dispensationalism know absolutely Antichrist's war on God's Commandments, but, for some reason, they do NOT want the general congregations to know about it. We have done a VERY detailed Website called, Antichrist's Name and Mark Are the Same, that shows how Paul called Antichrist "Anomos" 3 times. Anomos means "Law Annuller" and/or "Law Changer." Pre-Tribbers know that their, "Grace Age" Doctrine will be carefully scrutinized and probably be abandoned by many masses of people if these people knew about Paul identifying Antichrist as "Anomos." Their claim that we are presently living an "Age" in which God's Law is annulled and changed would be in serious trouble. In other words, to acknowledge ANOMOS as Antichrist's name would be to acknowledge that they agree with Antichrist's "Changed Times and Laws" (Dan. 7:25). It would be admitting that all who promote this, "Changed Time Law," which is of course the Sabbath Commandment, are being set up to be part of Antichrist. Thus Pre-Tribbers have not only an Un-Answerable Question, but a Question they refuse to answer even when they know the answer, and the well educated and well studied Pre-Trib Promoters do know about everything we covered in this section.
View 44 -When Antichrist is Allowed to Work?
This is hyper-problematic for Dispensationalists. If they are right about Antichrist not being allowed to inflict his Mark until after the "Grace Age Church" people are Raptured, these people will continue setting aside God's Law, His Sabbath, and His New Covenant until they see Jesus come. BUT, IF Pre-Trib IS WRONG, billions of people will be transgressing Jesus' Law, changing His (so-called least) Commandment, and breaking His New Covenant that He confirmed at His Last Supper. Underscore "Transgressing," "Changing," and "Breaking." Now if Pre-Trib is presently promoting activity that involves these 3 Key Words, then they have a VERY serious Un-Answerable Question! Now let's read a prophecy from Isaiah. This Prophecy is Isaiah's warning about what will be happening in the whole World just before Jesus' Second Coming: "The earth is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have TRANSGRESSED the Laws, CHANGED the Ordinance, BROKEN the Everlasting Covenant. Therefore [because of this] hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate; therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left" (Isa.24:5). If Pre-Trib fits each of these 3, there can be no doubt that they have at least 3 Un-Answerable Questions. If his Prophetic vision is true, billions of people will be Transgressing, Changing, and Breaking Jesus' Law and His New Covenant. Are Christians doing exactly this, and are they doing so because this is what they are being taught?
What we MUST say next is heartbreaking. As we've said many times, this Author has many good friends that believe whole heartedly in Pre-Trib. We HOPE these good friends will at least consider the facts here. Let's look quickly at each of the words we have underscored:
Transgressed the Laws - Because Pre-Trib has adopted the Doctrine of, "Grace Allows us to Disregard God's Law," they obviously teach that "Transgression of God's Law" is permissible.
Change the Ordinance - An "Ordinance" is a Commandment. This is a "No Brainer!" Does Pre-Trib have a Doctrine that "Changes an Ordinance?" There can be no other interpretation for a Doctrine that says God's Sabbath has been "Changed." Although Pre-Tribbers do not claim that Sunday is the Sabbath, they emphatically declare that the Sabbath Ordinance is "Changed."
Breaking Christ's Everlasting (New) Covenant - What about a Doctrine that says the New Covenant is NOT for the Church, but rather for a future generation of Jews during the Tribulation and a so-called Millennial Kingdom? Would such a false Doctrine that attempts to completely remove the Church and Christians from the New Covenant qualify as "Breaking the Covenant?"
The scary part of this is that instead of being "Raptured" to Heaven as Christ's Bride, millions of people will be guilty of fitting EXACTLY into Isaiah prophecy!
View 45-Antichrist's Deadly Wound?
Pre-Trib says that this wound will happen when Antichrist, the man, takes control of our planet, he will receive a wound that kills him, after which he is revived and continues his evil work. We show in the Website The Apostate Church Becoming Antichrist that Antichrist already received a deadly wound in 1798 AD, and that the wound is presently being healed. Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is the fact that the Bible CLEARLY outlines the work of Antichrist, including the fact that the Church in its Apostate condition during the Dark Ages IS Antichrist. Once that fact is established, the activities of Antichrist in his role as the "New World Order Church" are so clear that even a surface reading of the Bible Prophecies renders a good understanding of how Antichrist will function after his "Deadly Wound" is healed. This is vital information much needed by Christians.
View 46 - Book of Revelation - For Church or Jews?
View 32 -God's Sabbath and the Grace Age?
The Knowledgeable Dispensationalist will declare that, IF there is no such thing as a, "Grace Age," Christians should now, at the present time, be obeying the Sabbath Commandment. Dispensational Textbooks and Study Bibles declare that all Christian Believers will be keeping the Sabbath Commandment just before Jesus' Second Coming during the Tribulation. These Textbooks and Bibles say that the, "Church" will continue honoring Sunday as the, "Lord's Day" until the very day they are, "Snatched Away" (Raptured) to Heaven. The Un-Answerable part of Pre-Tribber's view on this is the fact that they accuse God of demanding His people disobey His Sabbath Commandment one day, and the very next day, the day after He, "Snatches them Away," God does a complete about face and demands obedience to His Sabbath Commandment. For our most comprehensive study of this see "Is There Really a Pre-Trib Rapture?" and "The Rapture and Sabbath Connection."
View 33 -Sabbath in the Tribulation?
This is a continuation of the previous Un-Answerable Question and it carries the same inconsistency. Pre-Tribbers declare emphatically that Sabbath observance at this present time is not only unnecessary, it is "Legalism!" Some say it is a SIN to observe the Sabbath at the present time! According to Pre-Trib, disregarding the Sabbath was a sin from Moses till Jesus; then obeying the Sabbath Commandment now is a sin; and then, one day after a Rapture, disregarding the Sabbath is a sin again! Pre-Tribbers say that at this present time, Sabbath keeping is a form of denying Grace and trying to, "Work your way to Heaven through the Law!" Does God really flip-flop on the Sabbath Commandment? Pre-Trib says that for the first 2500 years after creation, God had no interest in a Sabbath, then for the next 1500 years God demanded Sabbath observance, then, after Christ's crucifixion, God demanded no Sabbath observance, only to reinstate it after He "Raptures" His "Church." Confusing? Does this sound like something God would really do? Or, does this sound exactly like something Satan could use in his attempt to make God look "Wishy-Washy?" Satan's goal has always been to attack God's Character in every way possible. God has promised us that He is Lord and He "Changes Not!" We must stress again that this Sabbath/Sunday Confusion is exactly what the Bible says Satan will use for his Mark of the Beast.
View 34 - Sabbath in the Millennium?
Dispensational Textbooks and Bible Footnotes claim that there will be an Earthly Millennial Kingdom, and that during this 1000 years, the entire earth will be obeying the Sabbath Commandment; the seventh day Sabbath, which we now call Saturday. They base this on the following Bible Verse: "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh (everybody) come to worship before Me saith the Lord" (Isa. 66:23). It is true that the Sabbath will be kept during the Millennium, but the Bible Verse Pre-Tribbers quote as proof doesn't fit the Millennium. Notice the verse just before it. "For as the New Heavens and New Earth, which I will make, shall remain before Me saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain" (Vs. 22). Thus their proof text is NOT the Millennium at all. It is showing that the Sabbath will be kept throughout Eternity, after Jesus creates the New Earth.
Pre-Tribbers claim that, since there's no absolute Scripture showing the Sabbath being kept by God's people before Moses, there was no Sabbath during this time. This Author believes that from Creation till this present time God has designed for His people to observe the Sabbath. Scripture is clear that it will be kept throughout Eternity. In fact, this Author believes that there has been a Sabbath, in some form, all the way back into eternity past. In other words, as long as God has existed, which is forever back with no beginning, the Sabbath has existed.
It is a huge mystery how 98% of Christians believe God wants them to disregard the Sabbath at this time. If this whole notion is a lie, if God DOES NOT demand we disobey the Sabbath Commandment at this time, then it's extremely obvious that Satan has done his homework very, very well. He's proved himself to be the Master Deceiver.
View 35 -What Day is Israel's Sabbath?
This is actually one Question that does NOT create an Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib. Pre-Tribbers will say emphatically that Saturday, the Seventh Day of the Week is now the Sabbath! They'll declare that it has been since the 10 Commandments were given. They'll say that Saturday, the Sabbath, will be observed as Christ's Holy Worship Day throughout the Millennium. Pre-Tribbers will also declare that, if the Church and Israel are the same, then we Christians should be Observing the Sabbath now as their Worship Day! But, Pre-Trib says that the Church is completely separate from Israel. If the Church truly is completely separate from Israel with a separate purpose and a separate worship day, Sunday, then Pre-Trib might have a point and a purpose. But, if the Church is an extension of Israel, an extension that should be observing God's Sabbath Commandment now, Pre-Trib is pointing people away from obeying God. If disregarding and disobeying God's Commandments and teaching others to do so also is the Mark of the Beast, the problem is all too obvious!!! Could Satan be setting up the Church for Antichrist? Be sure to check out our Link Is the Church Israel. Also see The Bride of Christ.
View 36 - The Sabbath and Antichrist
The reason we include this Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Question is because there are dozens of Rapture Movies that have been made by Pre-Trib Promoters over the past 30 years, and not one EVER mentions Antichrist's connection to the Sabbath. This Author has seen all of these movies; at least the ones that have been available for the general public. He has purchased copies of these movies and watched each of them several times. This was done to research everything that Pre-Trib has made available. This does not include all of the Pro-Pre-Trib books because there are simply too many. Why is it strange that Pre-Trib Movies NEVER mention the Sabbath? It is strange because almost every time the Bible makes mention of Antichrist, there is a direct or indirect connection to God's Law and the fact that Antichrist will be in an all out war against God's Law and the people that obey it.
We can answer the question as to why Pre-Trib movies and books do not tell how Antichrist will make war on God's people because they "Keep the Commandments of God and have the Testimony and Faith of Jesus Christ" (See Rev.12:17 and 14:12). The reason is obvious really! Focusing on Antichrist's Anti-Sabbath/Anti-Commandment last-day war magnifies the fact that God's Sabbath will be the line of demarcation during the Tribulation. If this fact became a serious subject of discussion among Christians, it would soon be clear that God is NOT requiring present day Christians to disobey His Sabbath Commandment. So, this is not so much an Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Tribbers. It is a subject for which they'd simply rather not talk about. In a moment we will look closer at this when we come to Pre-Trib's HUGE Un-Answerable Question about the Mark of the Beast. When Prophesying about Antichrist, Daniel wrote, "And he shall think to change Times and Laws" (Dan.7:25)! There is only one part of God's Law dealing with "Time." That is of course the Sabbath Commandment. In our Website called "Antichrist's Sabbath" we show from the Bible that Antichrist has ALREADY attempted to "Change God's Time Law."
View 37 - Who Are The Elect?
We will continue looking at Antichrist in a moment, but first we need to establish who Antichrist will REALLY be targeting during the Tribulation. Pre-Trib Textbooks and Study Bibles say the Elect is Israel and NOT the Church. However, in Pre-Trib sermons and literature you'll find the Church referred to as the Elect. Pre-Tribbers need to make up their minds because Antichrist and Satan will direct all of their evil persecution at the Elect. It will be their sole purpose to cause each and every person within the Elect to either give up their determination to obey God and His Commandments or "be killed" (See Rev.13:15) Jesus, Peter, James, and Paul referred to the Church as the Elect.
Jesus said that Satan's and Antichrist's last day deceptions would be so powerful that, "if it were possible, even the VERY ELECT would be deceived" (Matt.24:24)! Pre-Trib tries to say that this "ELECT" Jesus refers to is Israel and not the Church. This creates their Un-Answerable Question because Peter wrote a letter to the Church and called them the, "ELECT according to the foreknowledge of God, the Father" (1Pet.1:2).
James wrote the following to the Church: “James, a servant of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, to the TWELVE TRIBES which are scattered abroad, greeting” (Js.1:1). Paul called the Church the Elect in each of the following Texts: Rom.8:33; Tit.1:1; Col.3:12; 1Tim. 5:21. Paul's most profound statement connection the Elect, Israel, to the Church is the following: "If ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:29). If the Elect is going to be Antichrist's and Satan's focus during the Tribulation, and the Church IS the Elect, the Church needs to stop pretending they'll be Raptured Away before the Tribulation. The Church needs to heed the warnings Jesus gave them so that they'll be armed and prepared to defeat Satan and Antichrist!! Be sure to see The Bride of Christ and Is the Church Israel.
View 38 - New Covenant or New Testament
This Author doesn't particularly like "Gotcha Questions," but this particular Un-Answerable Question can be better understood if we use one of these. Go to any well educated Pre-Trib Minister and ask the following Question: "Is the Church (Our Church if you are a member of his Church) a New Testament Church?"
You'll get a VERY hearty answer: "Absolutely we are a New Testament Church! The entire portion of the Bible we believe in and teach is New Testament. This means we use the New Testament as our guide of Faith and Practice. The Old Testament uses the Law, but we New Testament Believers are no longer under the Law! We are under Grace!!"
Afterwards, or at a later time, ask the same Pre-Trib Minister the following: "How about the New Covenant? Are we a New Covenant Church?"
This time you will get an entirely different response. The Minister will respond with something like the following: "Well... sort of.., maybe...but NOT REALLY! Actually, the Church is NOT New Covenant. You see, the Church and Israel are completely different. Israel will be the real New Covenant believers, and they will be New Covenant starting in the Great Tribulation after we have been Raptured away to Heaven. Seven years after we are Raptured, Jesus will come to Earth and set up His Millennial Kingdom. This Kingdom will be God rewarding His people Israel. Jesus will be King. The Jews will be the ruling Nation over all the Nations of the World and then, and ONLY then the New Covenant will be in effect and the Law of the whole World!"\
If the Reader is a member of a Pre-Trib congregation, and has not studied the difference between the New Testament and the New Covenant, the above may sound perfectly fine. If, however, the Reader has looked up the words "New Covenant" and "New Testament" in a Strong's Concordance Dictionary, he or she will be shocked at the Minister's answer! The word Covenant and the word Testament are from the exact same Greek word. The word is "Dia-the-ke." It is pronounced "Dee-ath-ay-kay."
So what Un-Answerable Question does this bring up for Pre-Trib? Pre-Tribbers, along with almost all Christians have developed a mindset that says the Old Testament represents repression from being under the Law, while the New Testament represents freedom because of being no longer the Law but under Grace. Most Christians have been continually told that they are free to disregard the Law. A study into the New Covenant, however, shows that the New Covenant represents having God's Law, "Written in their hearts and their inward parts" (See Jer.31:31-33 and Heb.8:8). Thus our popular Ministers try to separate the meaning of the New Testament and the New Covenant. They try to use the New Testament to show a moving away from God's Commandments, and, because of the Bible Prophecies concerning the New Covenant, they have to accept that the New Covenant represents moving back towards God's Law. The REAL Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Question will become VERY clear in the following section. Discover the Horrid consequences of declaring that the New Covenant is ONLY for a future generation of Jews, and not for the Church!
View 39 -New Covenant- For Israel or For the Church?
This Un-Answerable Question topples a huge Pre-Trib pillar Doctrine. Jesus made it clear at His Last Supper that when He comes back to take His people to the "place He prepared for them" (see Jn.14:1-3), ONLY New Covenant participants will go with Him to Heaven. He said that from that day on, when His Disciples would celebrate the Lord's Supper, it would commemorate 2 events. One would be His Death so that humankind could have salvation. The other would represent a future event in Heaven called "The Marriage Supper of the Lamb"(See Rev.19:7). He told His Disciples that He would NOT partake of this celebration meal until He did so with His New Covenant participants in His Father's His Kingdom is established. Underscore "In His Father's Kingdom" because Pre-Trib declares that the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will be for the Church that they say goes to Heaven 7 years BEFORE the Kingdom of God is established. And Pre-Trib's confusion gets worse! Pre-Tribbers claim that at the EXACT time this Marriage Supper occurs, EVERY person who will later become the New Covenant people of the Millennial Kingdom will not even be believes in Jesus! Let's look at what Jesus said and see that Pre-Trib says the complete opposite.
Marriage Supper is ONLY for New Covenant Participants!
"And He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to the Disciples (the Founders of His Church), and said, Drink ye all of it; For this is My Blood of the New Covenant (New Testament - KJV), which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will NOT drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day (the Day of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb) when I drink it new with you in My Father's Kingdom" (Matt.26:27-29). So what did Jesus say? Who do the Disciples represent? They are the Founders of Christ's Church, thus the New Covenant is directly for the Church. Pre-Trib says that Jesus will Rapture His Church to Heaven, and then celebrate the Marriage Supper of the Lamb with them because the Church is Christ's Bride. Pre-Trib says the "New Covenant Jews" are "Left Behind" when the Church/Bride is Raptured, because they do NOT believe in Jesus at that time. A simple reading of Christ's words above shows that the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will be for New Covenant Believers ONLY! A simple reading also shows that this Supper will take place in "His Father's Kingdom." Pre-Trib says the Kingdom of God does not begin until 7 years after they are Raptured to Heaven. Pre-Trib says the Kingdom of God it will not be in Heaven, but here on Earth. If the Reader is confused, you have every right to be. If the Reader doubts any part of what we present here, a simple study of the footnotes of the Scofield Bible or any Pre-Trib Study Bible will verify everything. Simply put, the New Covenant and the Church CANNOT be separated, and Pre-Trib trying to do so creates many Un-Answerable Questions for them.
The question of "Who is the Bride of Christ" introduces Pre-Trib's next Un-Answerable question. For more Bible proof and further discussion as to Israel's and the Church's relationship to the New Covenant, see Websites "Is the Church Israel" and "Christ's Bride" and "144 Thousand."
40 - Who is the Bride of Christ?
Not only does this Un-Answerable Question destroy a pillar Doctrine for Pre-Trib, it opens up a host of other difficulties for them. It has to do with the qualifications of the Bride. By its very name, Dispensationalism divides human history on earth into segments of TIME. Pre-Tribbers call these time segments Dispensations and claim there are 7. They tell us that the Bride of Christ are ONLY people that have lived in one of these seven Dispensations; the Grace Dispensation. Scripture, however, says EVERY SAVED person from Creation to the Second Coming of Jesus will be included in the Bride of Christ. Pre-Trib's so-called Grace Dispensation is said to be a time when God's people have permission to disregard God's Ten Commandments. Pre-Tribbers tell us that, "Grace Frees Us From the Law," during this so-called Grace Dispensation; also called Grace Age. In other words, according to Pre-Trib Dispensationalists, only one of the 7 Dispensations require people to disregard God's Law. Pre-Trib says that during all of the other 6 Dispensations, God requires Obedience.
Pre-Trib's Most Un-Believable Declaration!
Dear Reader, hold on to your seat!! According to Pre-Trib, the ONLY people who make up the Bride of Christ will be the people from the ONLY Dispensation in which Disobedience to God's Law is REQUIRED!! This is the one Dispensation that invented the Doctrine that, "Grace Frees Us to Disobey God's Law!" This is not just a little "oops" mistake from Pre-Trib. This Doctrine makes it appear that God rewards disobedience and punishes obedience. Does this notion have a ring similar to Satan telling Eve that disobedience would project her and Adam to being "As Gods" (Gen.3:12)? It's EXACTLY the same thing! Is it not just another re-cycled deceit from Satan? From the time Satan (Lucifer) first sinned in Heaven, his theme has been that disobedience brings good results and obedience brings bad results. This Author has many very good friends that are Pre-Tribbers. Hopefully these friends will examine this Pre-Trib Doctrine and reconsider their position. We don't want to offend, but the Doctrine stating that,"Grace Gives Us Permission to Disobey God's Law" is a Doctrine of Demons! Add to this the notion that the Bride of Christ must conform to this Doctrine of Demons, and with all due respect, BLASPHEMY is the only proper definition! Sadly almost all of Christianity claims that God insists we disregard God's Law. Even though there is a campaign throughout Christianity that we display the 10 Commandments in Government Buildings, when the subject of the Sabbath Commandment arises, these 10 Commandment Zealots suddenly become Commandment bashers! See our Link, The Bride of Christ. For more on Sabbath Observance being a sin, see "Is the Sabbath a Sin?"
View 41 -Who are The 144 Thousand?
Pre-Tribbers say that the 144 Thousand John prophesied about in Revelation will NOT be part of the Bride of Christ. They say that when Jesus takes His Bride (the Church) to Heaven, the 144 Thousand are still Non-Believers in Jesus! A careful study into the 144 Thousand shows that the 144 Thousand are actually the principle members of the Bride of Christ because they endure the worst Tribulation in the history of Planet Earth! But Pre-Trib says the 144 Thousand are "Left Behind" at the so-called Rapture because they are rejecting Jesus at that time. Pre-Trib goes on to say that the 144 Thousand NEVER qualify as part of the Bride, even though the 144 Thousand obey the very Ten Commandments Pre-Tribbers claim are impossible to obey. Again this points to the fact that Pre-Trib is promoting the notion that the people who refuse to obey God's Law are rewarded and the people who obey God's Law are punished. This is almost an exact copy of the words the Serpent in the Garden of Eden told Eve! In our Blogsite called, "The 144 Thousand," we show from Scripture that the 144 Thousand are by far the most qualified group of people who eventually participate in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Satan and Antichrist will make war on the 144 Thousand specifically because they obey God's Commandments! John introduces his most comprehensive revelation of Antichrist with the following: "And the Dragon (Satan) was wroth with the Woman and went to make war with the Remnant of her seed, who keep the Commandments of God, and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17)!
View 42 -When Antichrist Begins or Began?
Pre-Trib has created many Un-Answerable Questions concerning Antichrist. We will look at just a few, beginning with Antichrist's first appearance on the World scene. Let's look at a case scenario. Satan NEVER uses fair play in his attempts to deceive people, so, if there is at the present time, an Antichrist at work now setting up the masses in preparation for his last day Delusions, what do we think Satan would do in order help him. We can all agree that Satan would do all possible to inject into Christianity a set of beliefs declaring that Antichrist CANNOT begin his work until a later time; a later Dispensation, if you please. What if Satan could convince all Christians that they have NOTHING to fear concerning Antichrist, when in fact these Christians have already incorporated into their Doctrines EVERYTHING needed for them to accept and wear the Mark of the Beast? We have already touch on the fact that the Mark of the
Beast will be some form of "Annul God's Law." Later we will show from Scripture that the main thrust of the Mark of the Beast will be Antichrist's attempt to "Change Times and Laws" (Dan.7:25). We will show from Scripture that attempting to abolish God's Sabbath Commandment will be ground zero from Antichrist.
Scripture says the number of the Beast is 666 and is the "number of a man" (Rev. 13:18). Pre-Tribbers say that since the Bible says, "a man," Antichrist will be only one man. The Bible truth is, Antichrist has been around and working for over a 1000 years. By comparing Prophecy with Church history, it becomes completely clear that the Real Antichrist emerged in 538AD and then for the next 1260 years he dominated Europe and beyond. Paul made it clear that Antichrist would emerge when the Church "Apostatized." Paul wrote, "Let no man deceive you by any means; for that day (the Day Jesus comes to gather His people and take them to Heaven) shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY (Apostasy) first and that Man of Sin (Antichrist) be revealed, the son of perdition" (2Thess.2:3). Paul seems to be saying that when the Church "Falls Away," the Church actually becomes Antichrist. This idea that it is the "Church" itself that becomes Antichrist is abundantly clear if we look at each and every prophecy about Antichrist from Daniel, Paul, and John. In our Website, "When The Church Became Antichrist," we show over a dozen Prophecies from Scripture that prove beyond any possible doubt exactly who Antichrist is. We also show from Bible Prophecy and World History that the Church/Antichrist has already received his "Deadly Wound," and how that wound is healing in preparation for a "New World Order Church" that will be the final Antichrist just before Jesus Comes.
Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is the fact that the Bible is abundantly clear that the Dark Ages Church has already emerged as Antichrist, yet Pre-Trib insists that Antichrist CANNOT work until they have been Raptured. Again, the danger is for us to think Antichrist cannot work now, when in fact he has been duping masses of Christians for over 1500 years already! Check these other Websites that reveal much more Bible information about Antichrist: "70 Weeks of Daniel," Antichrist's Name, The Mark of the Beast, and The Great Whore of Revelation.
View 43 - Antichrist's Name "ANOMOS"?
This is an Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib because if they acknowledge that Paul actually called Antichrist by a Name that reveals the Mark of the Beast, and also reveals that Antichrist will be in a all out war against God's Law and God's people because they, "Keep the Commandments of God and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17)! In all of Pre-Trib's Bibles, Books, Literature, and Movies, they have been very careful to reveal as little as possible about the fact that Antichrist's war is against those who obey God's Commandments. Pre-Tribbers that have truly and carefully studied Pre-Trib Dispensationalism know absolutely Antichrist's war on God's Commandments, but, for some reason, they do NOT want the general congregations to know about it. We have done a VERY detailed Website called, Antichrist's Name and Mark Are the Same, that shows how Paul called Antichrist "Anomos" 3 times. Anomos means "Law Annuller" and/or "Law Changer." Pre-Tribbers know that their, "Grace Age" Doctrine will be carefully scrutinized and probably be abandoned by many masses of people if these people knew about Paul identifying Antichrist as "Anomos." Their claim that we are presently living an "Age" in which God's Law is annulled and changed would be in serious trouble. In other words, to acknowledge ANOMOS as Antichrist's name would be to acknowledge that they agree with Antichrist's "Changed Times and Laws" (Dan. 7:25). It would be admitting that all who promote this, "Changed Time Law," which is of course the Sabbath Commandment, are being set up to be part of Antichrist. Thus Pre-Tribbers have not only an Un-Answerable Question, but a Question they refuse to answer even when they know the answer, and the well educated and well studied Pre-Trib Promoters do know about everything we covered in this section.
View 44 -When Antichrist is Allowed to Work?
This is hyper-problematic for Dispensationalists. If they are right about Antichrist not being allowed to inflict his Mark until after the "Grace Age Church" people are Raptured, these people will continue setting aside God's Law, His Sabbath, and His New Covenant until they see Jesus come. BUT, IF Pre-Trib IS WRONG, billions of people will be transgressing Jesus' Law, changing His (so-called least) Commandment, and breaking His New Covenant that He confirmed at His Last Supper. Underscore "Transgressing," "Changing," and "Breaking." Now if Pre-Trib is presently promoting activity that involves these 3 Key Words, then they have a VERY serious Un-Answerable Question! Now let's read a prophecy from Isaiah. This Prophecy is Isaiah's warning about what will be happening in the whole World just before Jesus' Second Coming: "The earth is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have TRANSGRESSED the Laws, CHANGED the Ordinance, BROKEN the Everlasting Covenant. Therefore [because of this] hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate; therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left" (Isa.24:5). If Pre-Trib fits each of these 3, there can be no doubt that they have at least 3 Un-Answerable Questions. If his Prophetic vision is true, billions of people will be Transgressing, Changing, and Breaking Jesus' Law and His New Covenant. Are Christians doing exactly this, and are they doing so because this is what they are being taught?
What we MUST say next is heartbreaking. As we've said many times, this Author has many good friends that believe whole heartedly in Pre-Trib. We HOPE these good friends will at least consider the facts here. Let's look quickly at each of the words we have underscored:
Transgressed the Laws - Because Pre-Trib has adopted the Doctrine of, "Grace Allows us to Disregard God's Law," they obviously teach that "Transgression of God's Law" is permissible.
Change the Ordinance - An "Ordinance" is a Commandment. This is a "No Brainer!" Does Pre-Trib have a Doctrine that "Changes an Ordinance?" There can be no other interpretation for a Doctrine that says God's Sabbath has been "Changed." Although Pre-Tribbers do not claim that Sunday is the Sabbath, they emphatically declare that the Sabbath Ordinance is "Changed."
Breaking Christ's Everlasting (New) Covenant - What about a Doctrine that says the New Covenant is NOT for the Church, but rather for a future generation of Jews during the Tribulation and a so-called Millennial Kingdom? Would such a false Doctrine that attempts to completely remove the Church and Christians from the New Covenant qualify as "Breaking the Covenant?"
The scary part of this is that instead of being "Raptured" to Heaven as Christ's Bride, millions of people will be guilty of fitting EXACTLY into Isaiah prophecy!
View 45-Antichrist's Deadly Wound?
Pre-Trib says that this wound will happen when Antichrist, the man, takes control of our planet, he will receive a wound that kills him, after which he is revived and continues his evil work. We show in the Website The Apostate Church Becoming Antichrist that Antichrist already received a deadly wound in 1798 AD, and that the wound is presently being healed. Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is the fact that the Bible CLEARLY outlines the work of Antichrist, including the fact that the Church in its Apostate condition during the Dark Ages IS Antichrist. Once that fact is established, the activities of Antichrist in his role as the "New World Order Church" are so clear that even a surface reading of the Bible Prophecies renders a good understanding of how Antichrist will function after his "Deadly Wound" is healed. This is vital information much needed by Christians.
View 46 - Book of Revelation - For Church or Jews?
Now that we have examined several Un-Answerable Pre-Trib Antichrist Questions, we need to look at Pre-Trib's position concerning the entire book of Revelation. Pre-Tribbers claim there is NOTHING in Revelation after chapter 3 that has ANYTHING to do with the Church; only Israel! They claim that the first 3 chapters were to be given to the 7 Churches, but EVERYTHING after chapter 3 is ONLY for a future generation of Jews after the Church has been Raptured to Heaven. One Bible text in the end of Revelation will clear this up. Jesus personally said to John, "I, Jesus, have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the CHURCHES" (Rev. 22:16). For Pre-Trib to be correct, Jesus would have had to say, "I testify unto you these things to a future generation of Jews after the Churches have been Raptured to Heaven." At the end of Revelation, John warned us that we'd best not re-write the Words of Jesus!!! "For I testify unto EVERY man that hearth the words of the Prophecy of this Book, If ANY man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this Book! And if ANY man shall take away from the words of the Book of this Prophecy, God shall take away his part in the Book of Life, and out of the Holy City, and from the things written in this Book" (Rev.22:18-19). If Jesus said the entire Book of Revelation is for the Churches, then Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question is very clear! The only way Pre-Trib can answer this Question would be to say that they are wrong, and that Revelation IS for the Churches. But to say this, pretty much all of Pre-Trib Dispensationalism would have to be revised drastically. Now that we have seen that Jesus gave the Book of Revelation to His Church, lets continue looking at the workings of Antichrist. We may be the Generation that he will target with the Mark of the Beast!!
View 47 -The Great Harlot?
No study of Antichrist would be complete with identifying who John saw when he described the "Great Whore." Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here has to do with their declaration that Antichrist cannot work until after the Church has been taken to Heaven. We have shown from the Bible that Antichrist emerged soon after the Apostles were gone. Actually the forerunners to "The Antichrist" were hard at work spreading their Doctrines of Demons during the days of the Apostles, very soon after Jesus went back to Heaven. As Paul prophesied, the REAL Antichrist emerged during the time the Church began to apostatize while it took on the evils of Paganism. The Church in its Paganized, Dark Ages time became the Great Whore and for 1260 years (538-1798) Great Whore Church murder millions of people. The reason many of these people were murdered and tortured was simply because the persons disagreed with certain Pagan Doctrines promoted by the Church. This whole thing is a delicate subject to discuss. It is declared to be "Church Bashing" and "Denomination Bashing" so we will handle it with as much care as possible. We will not name any Church or Denomination for any reason. But, Scripture makes it clear that the Great Whore is Antichrist's Church and that during the last days, God will pour out His wrath on the Great Whore.
Bride of Christ or Great Whore
The Bible is clear that billions of people will THINK they are the Bride of Christ, while they are actually part of the Great Whore Church. The line separating the two has to do with the Doctrine of Demons claiming that, "Grace INSISTS we disobey God's Law!" Satan's (Antichrist's) Great Whore Church will be "making war on" and trying to destroy God's "Commandment Keeping People" (See Rev.12:17 and 14:12)!! Antichrist will devise Commandments that are opposed to God's Law. "And he (Antichrist) will think to change Times and Laws" (Dan'7:25)! The key word is "Time." Only one of God's Commandments has to do with "Time." That Commandment is of course His Sabbath Commandment. For more on this, see The Great Whore and Pastors Teaching Anomia.
View 48 -What is the Mark of the Beast?
Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is why they keep promoting the notion that the Mark of the Beast is a Tattoo, or our Social Security number, or Implanted Computer Chips, and dozens of other speculations. Why not simply take what the Bible clearly says and at least allow this to be included in their speculations. The Mark of the Beast will be, "Annulling God's Law." Just 2 Bible verses set the stage for a complete study into the Mark:
1. - "And he (Antichrist-the Beast) shall think to change Times and Laws" (Dan. 7:25).
2. - "And the Dragon was wroth with the Woman, and went to make war with the Remnant of her seed, who keep the Commandments of God, and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17; see also Rev.14:12)!
The above texts are a small window into Bible Verses that clearly show Antichrist attempting to force people to disregard God's Law. How different is that from today's most popular of all Doctrine of Demons, the Doctrine stating, "Grace Frees us From God's Law!" You can hear this proclaimed from thousands of Pulpits every week! They sometimes use different words, however. You hear words like, "God's Grace has freed us from that old Law!" Also, "God is disappointed when we deny His Grace by attempting to keep the Law."
Combine those two Bible Verses above with dozens of other Bible texts making the same point, and the Mark of the Beast begins to look like, "CHANGING" God's Law; in particularly His "TIME" Commandment. God's only Commandment dealing with "Time" is of course His Sabbath Commandment. The reason Pre-Trib has this as an Un-Answerable Question is obvious! Their position on the Sabbath is actually IDENTICAL to that which the Bible prophesies Antichrist's will be! Pre-Trib Dispensationalism invented what they call, "Grace Dispensationalism." The very definition of "Grace Dispensation" is emphasizing that during this time period, God's people are free from God's Law, as opposed to those living in the so called "Law Dispensation" during which time God's people were required to obey His 10 Commandments. These so called Dispensations show that Pre-Trib agrees with "Changing God's Law" in particularly the Time Commandment, which is of course the Sabbath.
When all of the Bible Verses about Antichrist are combined, any serious Bible Student can come to no other conclusion than that the Mark of the Beast will be directly tied to Sabbath Abolishing.
We need to make something very clear here. Worshipping on Sunday is NOT the Mark of the Beast! There is ABSOLUTELY NO sin in worshipping God on ANY day of the Week. The Mark of the Beast is the act of attempting to ANNUL, or "Change" God's Law! Thus, when a man-made Sunday is designed to replace God's Sabbath, this becomes the Mark of the Beast. For more Bible info on this, see "Mark of the Beast." For our most comprehensive look on this subject, see "Antichrist's Name and Mark."
View 49 - Replacing Christ with Antichrist?
Perhaps the most grievous Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib Promoters is why they tampered with a Bible Prophecy the Holy Spirit gave to Daniel! It's a bad thing to try to make changes in a Bible Prophecy, but how much more serious is it to attempt to remove Jesus from that Bible Prophecy and attempt to replace Jesus with Antichrist?!? Has this happened? It has ABSOLUTELY!!! Let's look briefly:
View 47 -The Great Harlot?
No study of Antichrist would be complete with identifying who John saw when he described the "Great Whore." Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here has to do with their declaration that Antichrist cannot work until after the Church has been taken to Heaven. We have shown from the Bible that Antichrist emerged soon after the Apostles were gone. Actually the forerunners to "The Antichrist" were hard at work spreading their Doctrines of Demons during the days of the Apostles, very soon after Jesus went back to Heaven. As Paul prophesied, the REAL Antichrist emerged during the time the Church began to apostatize while it took on the evils of Paganism. The Church in its Paganized, Dark Ages time became the Great Whore and for 1260 years (538-1798) Great Whore Church murder millions of people. The reason many of these people were murdered and tortured was simply because the persons disagreed with certain Pagan Doctrines promoted by the Church. This whole thing is a delicate subject to discuss. It is declared to be "Church Bashing" and "Denomination Bashing" so we will handle it with as much care as possible. We will not name any Church or Denomination for any reason. But, Scripture makes it clear that the Great Whore is Antichrist's Church and that during the last days, God will pour out His wrath on the Great Whore.
Bride of Christ or Great Whore
The Bible is clear that billions of people will THINK they are the Bride of Christ, while they are actually part of the Great Whore Church. The line separating the two has to do with the Doctrine of Demons claiming that, "Grace INSISTS we disobey God's Law!" Satan's (Antichrist's) Great Whore Church will be "making war on" and trying to destroy God's "Commandment Keeping People" (See Rev.12:17 and 14:12)!! Antichrist will devise Commandments that are opposed to God's Law. "And he (Antichrist) will think to change Times and Laws" (Dan'7:25)! The key word is "Time." Only one of God's Commandments has to do with "Time." That Commandment is of course His Sabbath Commandment. For more on this, see The Great Whore and Pastors Teaching Anomia.
View 48 -What is the Mark of the Beast?
Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is why they keep promoting the notion that the Mark of the Beast is a Tattoo, or our Social Security number, or Implanted Computer Chips, and dozens of other speculations. Why not simply take what the Bible clearly says and at least allow this to be included in their speculations. The Mark of the Beast will be, "Annulling God's Law." Just 2 Bible verses set the stage for a complete study into the Mark:
1. - "And he (Antichrist-the Beast) shall think to change Times and Laws" (Dan. 7:25).
2. - "And the Dragon was wroth with the Woman, and went to make war with the Remnant of her seed, who keep the Commandments of God, and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17; see also Rev.14:12)!
The above texts are a small window into Bible Verses that clearly show Antichrist attempting to force people to disregard God's Law. How different is that from today's most popular of all Doctrine of Demons, the Doctrine stating, "Grace Frees us From God's Law!" You can hear this proclaimed from thousands of Pulpits every week! They sometimes use different words, however. You hear words like, "God's Grace has freed us from that old Law!" Also, "God is disappointed when we deny His Grace by attempting to keep the Law."
Combine those two Bible Verses above with dozens of other Bible texts making the same point, and the Mark of the Beast begins to look like, "CHANGING" God's Law; in particularly His "TIME" Commandment. God's only Commandment dealing with "Time" is of course His Sabbath Commandment. The reason Pre-Trib has this as an Un-Answerable Question is obvious! Their position on the Sabbath is actually IDENTICAL to that which the Bible prophesies Antichrist's will be! Pre-Trib Dispensationalism invented what they call, "Grace Dispensationalism." The very definition of "Grace Dispensation" is emphasizing that during this time period, God's people are free from God's Law, as opposed to those living in the so called "Law Dispensation" during which time God's people were required to obey His 10 Commandments. These so called Dispensations show that Pre-Trib agrees with "Changing God's Law" in particularly the Time Commandment, which is of course the Sabbath.
When all of the Bible Verses about Antichrist are combined, any serious Bible Student can come to no other conclusion than that the Mark of the Beast will be directly tied to Sabbath Abolishing.
We need to make something very clear here. Worshipping on Sunday is NOT the Mark of the Beast! There is ABSOLUTELY NO sin in worshipping God on ANY day of the Week. The Mark of the Beast is the act of attempting to ANNUL, or "Change" God's Law! Thus, when a man-made Sunday is designed to replace God's Sabbath, this becomes the Mark of the Beast. For more Bible info on this, see "Mark of the Beast." For our most comprehensive look on this subject, see "Antichrist's Name and Mark."
View 49 - Replacing Christ with Antichrist?
Perhaps the most grievous Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib Promoters is why they tampered with a Bible Prophecy the Holy Spirit gave to Daniel! It's a bad thing to try to make changes in a Bible Prophecy, but how much more serious is it to attempt to remove Jesus from that Bible Prophecy and attempt to replace Jesus with Antichrist?!? Has this happened? It has ABSOLUTELY!!! Let's look briefly:
Daniel gave a prophecy that outlined the Coming of the Messiah, which of course was Jesus. It is found in Daniel 9, verses 24-27. It is long and we will not reproduce it in its entirety here. For a complete rundown on the Prophecy and how Pre-Trib has removed Jesus and replaced Him with Antichrist, see our Website, "Pre-Trib RemovesJesus From a Bible Prophecy." The Prophecy is called "Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy." In this Prophecy, Daniel prophesied the exact year Jesus was Baptized. Daniel also prophesied that there would be a 70th Week at the end of the Prophecy during which time Jesus would, "Confirm a Covenant with Many," and in the middle of that week, He would, "Cause the Sacrifice and Oblation to Cease."
Any Bible Student that has studied Christ's Ministry knows that Jesus did INDEED, "Confirm a Covenant with Many" during His ministry. It is also a well known fact that the, "Veil of the Temple was rent in twain (torn in two) from the top to the bottom" at the very time Jesus died on the cross. It would seem all too clear that tearing the Temple Veil from top to bottom was God's way of letting the Jews know that the "Sacifice and Oblation" was no longer necessary and should "cease" because the REAL Lamb of God had just died! Did anything happen 7 years after Jesus was baptized that signal the end of the 70th Week in the Prophecy? It did. Stephen the Deacon was stoned to death, causing the Gospel to be spread to the Gentiles. Any Bible Student or Bible Scholar will see these events clearly, and never question that Jesus was the person fulfilling the Prophecy.
Pre-Trib's Interpretation - So, how does Pre-Trib View this Prophecy? They accept that Jesus is the Messiah fulfilling the first part, but then they substitute Antichrist for the rest of the Prophecy. They claim that the whole 70th Week portion of the Prophecy has been removed and placed in the last days in order to show Antichrist's activities. They say that when Jesus said, "This is My Blood of the New Covenant which is shed for many for the remission of sin" (Matt.26:28), He did not fulfill the portion of Daniel's Prophecy that says, "He shall confirm the Covenant with many for one week" (Dan 9:27). Underscore the key words, Covenant and Many. Pre-Trib also says that when God caused the Temple Veil to be "Rent in twain from top to bottom," this did not fulfill Daniel's Prophecy in which he wrote that Messiah would "Cause the Sacrifice and Oblation to cease." Pre-Trib says that in the last days just before Jesus comes, Antichrist will make a 7 Year Covenant with the Jews, giving them permission to rebuild their Temple, then, 31/2 years after the Covenant began, Antichrist will break his agreement with the Jews and persecute them.
Anyone can plainly see the Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib. They could answer this question by acknowledging that Jesus, not Antichrist, fulfilled Daniel's Prophecy. But they can't, because to do so would bring serious question to their whole "7 Year Tribulation" portion of their Doctrine/Theory. It could no longer exist.
Any Bible Student that has studied Christ's Ministry knows that Jesus did INDEED, "Confirm a Covenant with Many" during His ministry. It is also a well known fact that the, "Veil of the Temple was rent in twain (torn in two) from the top to the bottom" at the very time Jesus died on the cross. It would seem all too clear that tearing the Temple Veil from top to bottom was God's way of letting the Jews know that the "Sacifice and Oblation" was no longer necessary and should "cease" because the REAL Lamb of God had just died! Did anything happen 7 years after Jesus was baptized that signal the end of the 70th Week in the Prophecy? It did. Stephen the Deacon was stoned to death, causing the Gospel to be spread to the Gentiles. Any Bible Student or Bible Scholar will see these events clearly, and never question that Jesus was the person fulfilling the Prophecy.
Pre-Trib's Interpretation - So, how does Pre-Trib View this Prophecy? They accept that Jesus is the Messiah fulfilling the first part, but then they substitute Antichrist for the rest of the Prophecy. They claim that the whole 70th Week portion of the Prophecy has been removed and placed in the last days in order to show Antichrist's activities. They say that when Jesus said, "This is My Blood of the New Covenant which is shed for many for the remission of sin" (Matt.26:28), He did not fulfill the portion of Daniel's Prophecy that says, "He shall confirm the Covenant with many for one week" (Dan 9:27). Underscore the key words, Covenant and Many. Pre-Trib also says that when God caused the Temple Veil to be "Rent in twain from top to bottom," this did not fulfill Daniel's Prophecy in which he wrote that Messiah would "Cause the Sacrifice and Oblation to cease." Pre-Trib says that in the last days just before Jesus comes, Antichrist will make a 7 Year Covenant with the Jews, giving them permission to rebuild their Temple, then, 31/2 years after the Covenant began, Antichrist will break his agreement with the Jews and persecute them.
Anyone can plainly see the Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib. They could answer this question by acknowledging that Jesus, not Antichrist, fulfilled Daniel's Prophecy. But they can't, because to do so would bring serious question to their whole "7 Year Tribulation" portion of their Doctrine/Theory. It could no longer exist.
View 50 - Length of the Great Tribulation?
Even though Scripture doesn't give the slightest hint of a, "7 Year Tribulation," Pre-Trib declares it will be 7 Years in length. Their Un-Answerable Question is covered in the previous Un-Answerable Question about why they removed Jesus from a portion of Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy. If Pre-Trib acknowledges that they have made a mistake by doing this, their whole notion that the Tribulation will be 7 years is gone. For more on this, see Pre-Trib Removing Jesus From 70 Week Prophecy. From the time Satan fell, he has continuously tried to reverse, reverse, or revoke all Bible Prophecies. The Prophecies revealing the evils about himself, Satan attempts to point toward Jesus. During the very last days, Satan's delusions will involve attempting to place himself and Antichrist into the Bible Prophecies about Jesus. Satan is VERY clever, and almost all of earth's inhabitants will be fooled by his, "Great Signs and Wonders!"Daniel's 70th week ended three and a half years after Jesus died. Most of the Reformers believed and taught this. Let's quickly look at what John really saw in Revelation. He mentioned 2 time frames; a year in one place and 2 weeks in another. The actual "7 Last Plagues" time frame appears to be 2 weeks. We arrive at this by using the, "Day for a Year" principle. John records the following: "Therefore shall her (Babylon's) plagues come in one day [1 day = 1 prophetic year], death,and mourning, and famine, and she shall be utterly burned with fire; for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her" (Rev. 18:8). Also John wrote: "Alas, alas, that great city, Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour [prophetically 2 weeks] is thy judgment come" (Rev.18:10; see also vss.17-19). If a prophetic day is a year, then 1 hour would be approximately 2 weeks. Thus we might conclude that the entire Tribulation might be 1 year, and the 7 Last Plagues of the Tribulation could be about 2 weeks in length. Was John being precise by saying "One Hour?" Possibly not, but this certainly makes more sense than taking prophecies about Christ's 31/2 year ministry and attempting to convert them over into prophecies about Antichrist. One thing is for CERTAIN! God's people will be given all the protection promised them in Scripture, and that's enough, if we trust Him! For more on this, see, "The Great Tribulation."
View 51 - WHY a Tribulation?
Even though Scripture doesn't give the slightest hint of a, "7 Year Tribulation," Pre-Trib declares it will be 7 Years in length. Their Un-Answerable Question is covered in the previous Un-Answerable Question about why they removed Jesus from a portion of Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy. If Pre-Trib acknowledges that they have made a mistake by doing this, their whole notion that the Tribulation will be 7 years is gone. For more on this, see Pre-Trib Removing Jesus From 70 Week Prophecy. From the time Satan fell, he has continuously tried to reverse, reverse, or revoke all Bible Prophecies. The Prophecies revealing the evils about himself, Satan attempts to point toward Jesus. During the very last days, Satan's delusions will involve attempting to place himself and Antichrist into the Bible Prophecies about Jesus. Satan is VERY clever, and almost all of earth's inhabitants will be fooled by his, "Great Signs and Wonders!"Daniel's 70th week ended three and a half years after Jesus died. Most of the Reformers believed and taught this. Let's quickly look at what John really saw in Revelation. He mentioned 2 time frames; a year in one place and 2 weeks in another. The actual "7 Last Plagues" time frame appears to be 2 weeks. We arrive at this by using the, "Day for a Year" principle. John records the following: "Therefore shall her (Babylon's) plagues come in one day [1 day = 1 prophetic year], death,and mourning, and famine, and she shall be utterly burned with fire; for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her" (Rev. 18:8). Also John wrote: "Alas, alas, that great city, Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour [prophetically 2 weeks] is thy judgment come" (Rev.18:10; see also vss.17-19). If a prophetic day is a year, then 1 hour would be approximately 2 weeks. Thus we might conclude that the entire Tribulation might be 1 year, and the 7 Last Plagues of the Tribulation could be about 2 weeks in length. Was John being precise by saying "One Hour?" Possibly not, but this certainly makes more sense than taking prophecies about Christ's 31/2 year ministry and attempting to convert them over into prophecies about Antichrist. One thing is for CERTAIN! God's people will be given all the protection promised them in Scripture, and that's enough, if we trust Him! For more on this, see, "The Great Tribulation."
View 51 - WHY a Tribulation?
This may require the most Pre-Trib Re-Thinking so far! Pre-Trib says the Church will not be here on Earth during the Tribulation, but the Bible seems to say that God's Church will be the whole focus of the Tribulation. Jesus defeated Satan when He came to Earth 2000 years ago. Now, in these last days, almost all Bible Prophecies focus totally on how Satan, through Antichrist, will turn all of his wrath on God's Church in an all out effort to force them to receive the Mark of the Beast and, "Worship the Beast and his Image" (See Rev.13)! The Tribulation is a necessary part of God's plan to forever rid His Universe of sin and suffering. Scripture clearly reveals that the Church will demonstrate once and for all, to "all the World" (Matt.24:14), that God's way is the right way, and that Satan's accusations against Humanity is wrong.
The Tribulation will forever remove all doubt within God's entire Universe concerning God's Laws and His fairness! The Great Tribulation is the Final Nail in the Coffin of Sin and Satan! The Tribulation is Satan's LAST chance to prove his pitiful case. If God's CHURCH defeats Satan, using the New Covenant Power that Jesus has provided for them, sin will be DONE - FOREVER!
When the Church realizes that it will be FRONT and CENTER , the MAIN ATTRACTION in the Tribulation, Satan will experience his WORST Nightmare! This is why he is feverishly working to promote the Doctrine/Theory that the Church will not go through the Tribulation! He wants us to believe the Tribulation is for some future generation of Jews after the Church has been taken out of the world.
The Tribulation will demonstrate God's fairness and mercy, and will be Satan's final chance to prove his case in a normal earthly setting in which un-saved people will be interacting with God's Redeemed people. Scripture has little to say about communications between God and Lucifer (Satan). If, however, we carefully examine all Scripture references to the Tribulation, we'll see its real purpose. Job's story tells of a time when God and Satan spoke directly to each other, and it reveals much about what will happen in End-Times. When finally the Church understands its purpose, God can then say to Satan, "Hast thou considered My CHURCH?" And Satan will be given opportunity to test the Church much the way he tested Job. When Satan tested Job, he made an absolute fool of himself! With the strength God supplied Job, Satan was utterly defeated. So it will be when Satan make war on the Church during the Tribulation! Isaiah and Ezekiel also record conversations between God and Satan (See Isa.14:12-17; Ezek.28, whole chapter). Compile all this info and the purpose for the Tribulation becomes very clear!
When Satan approached God concerning Job, his accusation was that if bad things happened to Job, Job would turn against God, and so it will be in the end of time. Job said, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" (Job 13:15). Satan lost when he faced Job. He lost when he faced Joseph, Elijah, Elisha, Daniel, Daniel's 3 companions, and dozens of other Bible Saints. Satan lost big time when he faced Jesus, and he will lose big time when he faces God's last-day people; His Church. His Church will say, "We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us" (Phil. 4:13), and THEY WILL!!! Through the power God gives them, they accomplish EVERYTHING God needs in order for Jesus to come and take His people, His Church, His Bride, to the "Place He prepared for them" (Jn.14:1-3). The Church also accomplishes EVERYTHING God needs when He faces Satan in the final White Throne Judgment!
Jesus said, "To him that OVERCOMETH will I grant to sit with Me on My Thrown, just as I overcame and am set down with My Father on His Thrown" (Rev.3:21). "He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself to walk even as He walked" (1Jn.2:6).
And so we see the reason for the Great Tribulation. God needs His Church to have the same dedication to obedience as did Job, Joseph, Elijah, Elisha, and Daniel. Just before Jesus returns to take His people to Heaven, they WILL defeat Satan. But the Church must develop a burning desire to overcome the Powers of Darkness by using the power Jesus makes available to them. Together these empowered last-day Overcomers will demonstrate to the World and the Universe what can happen when God's people say, "We can do all things through Christ who strengtheth us" (Phil.4:13). When God's Church becomes such an Army of Believers, and, even though it will only be a small portion of those who claim to be His Church, this "Remnant," this "Elect" WILL defeat Antichrist and Satan. God will tell the 4 angels holding the four winds of strife to let go. Satan took his best shot at Job, Joseph, and Daniel and lost, and he'll lose again when he tries to destroy God's Church in the last days. So it will be that the Universe will forever see all of Lucifer's lies openly displayed. His big lie that obedience to God is impossible and un-necessary will be forever exposed. It will be over and all of God's children, His real Church, can go Home, FOREVER and FOREVER!
We apologize for this section being long, but this is the heart of what is wrong with a Doctrine that says God's Church will be taken out of Earth before the Tribulation! Satan's purpose is to destroy God's Church. To illustrate, let's look at two Generals. One is a Good General that will NEVER use deceit and evil forms of conflict. The other is EXTREMELY evil, and uses only lies and evil. There's to be a Grand Finally Battle. The Evil General uses every covert method at his disposal to get a false message to the Soldiers in the Good General's Army. Somehow he succeeds to convince the Good General's Army that they need no concern themselves with Battle because the Good General is going to REMOVE all of them from the Battle Field and replace them with another future Army that has not yet been recruited or trained. Of course the real purpose of the Evil General is to attack and destroy the very Army that believes they will be removed from the Battle Field! This is a crude illustration of the Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib. They are unwittingly aiding the Enemy of our Souls.
View 52 -Isaiah's Pig Prophecy?
This is particularly an Un-Answerable Question and Oxymoron for Pre-Trib Promoters because they say ALL Old Testament Prophecies that have not been fulfilled will be fulfilled some time in the future. Isaiah prophesied that there'll come a time in the future when,"For, behold, the Lord will come with FIRE...like a WHIRLWIND, to render His anger with FURY, and His rebuke with FLAMES of FIRE! For by FIRE and by His Sword will the Lord plead [Plead is - JUDGE - in the original Hebrew] with ALL flesh! And the SLAIN of the Lord shall be MANY! They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating SWINE'S FLESH and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord" (Isa.66:15-17)!
How does Pre-Trib respond to this Prophecy? Their silence is deafening! Obviously the Prophecy is yet future. Pre-Tribbers claim that, 7 years prior to this Prophecy being fulfilled, Jesus will come and Rapture the Church away to Heaven. They say the Church will have already become the Bride of Christ, which will be the highest possible position for created beings within God's Universe. Pre-Trib says these Raptured people come from a time called the "Grace Age" or "Church Age," and that this is the segment of time between the Cross and the Rapture. Pre-Trib's Oxymoron Un-Answerable Question is the following: "Why are these 'Grace Age' people given permission to, even encouraged to, eat SWINE right up until Jesus Raptures them to Heaven, yet 7 years later, Jesus comes out of Heaven utterly destroying the inhabitants of the WHOLE earth that are eating Swine?" Would Jesus really reward one group of people with the highest honor possible and allow, even encourage them to eat pigs, then kill another group for eating pigs? The Reader may ask how we know that Christ's anger and vengeance will involve the whole earth and not just the Jews? Because in the Text it says, "ALL Flesh," which means everybody. Also when Isaiah describes this same event of the Lord's vengeance when He comes at His Second Coming, his prophecy includes the whole world, not just the Jews. In Isaiah 24:1-6, Isaiah tells how Jesus punishes the whole world for "transgressing His Law, changing His Ordinance, and breaking His Everlasting Covenant."
TEMPLES of the Holy Spirit! Our bodies are Temples for the Holy Spirit. Satan loves for us to put Pigs in God's Temples!!
Do Not Touch! One final note. When God set the standard for clean and unclean animals, He only singled out one animal that they were not to touch its carcass. That was of course the Swine. And yet there is no other animal that every eatable part of its body is eaten. His skin, his nose, his tongue, his intestines, even his sex organs. Should we assume this is just coincidental, or should we suspect that the enemy of our Souls has persuaded us to completely and utterly defy God's command? The answer is all too obvious. So, how is this an Oxymoron for Pre-Trib? Pre-Trib Promoters tell us that all unfulfilled Prophecies will be fulfilled in the future, yet they completely ignore this Prophecy. For more details, see, "Eating Pigs When Jesus Comes."
View 53 -Where is Hell?
Ezekiel wrote extensively about how God will kill Satan immediately after the Great White Thrown Judgment. In Revelation, John gave the final details as to how and when Satan will be killed. If Ezekiel, John, Peter, and the other Prophets were right about God killing Satan, then what of this idea of there being a Hell hidden away and continually burning somewhere in the center of earth or out in space someplace? Hell is real. Any Church or Denomination claiming there's no Hell should be ashamed and deserves to be called a Cult and another bad name given to it! However, a careful Bible Study, even a casual reading of the Bible, is more than sufficient to reveal the fact that the Hell promoted by our Popular Preachers does not and will not exist. The notion that God TORTURES people throughout the ceaseless ages of time comes from Greek Mythology, not the Bible.
Pre-Trib actually gets off light on this Un-Answerable Question because they are only continuing what could be called "Orthodox Christianity." Actually Peter told us EXACTLY where Hell will be located and EXACTLY when it happens! We'll show this in a minute, but give a hint now. There is NO Hell burning now, but after the Great White Throne Judgment, there'll be a Hell even hotter than our Popular Preachers rant and rave about! For more detailed information and a close Bible Study on the real Hell, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
View 54-When is Hell?
Pre-Tribbers, along with the majority of Christian Denominations, say Hell is going on no
w. They declare that when the first lost person died after Adam and Eve were created, that person didn't die, but was immediately transferred into a burning Hell where they've been screaming and writhing and begging God for mercy ever since. Why that human has suffered in Hell for the 5000 plus years, yet Satan and his evil spirits have been free to pursue their favorite hobby, which is designing Doctrines of Demons to deceive us humans.
Peter Told EXACTLY Where Hell Is Located!
Let's let Peter tell us when and where Hell really happens. The Holy Spirit gave him the following: "The heavens and the EARTH which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment (Great White Throne Judgment) and perdition (destruction) of ungodly men" (2Peter 3:7). "The heavens [the atmosphere surrounding earth] shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements [atmosphere] shall melt with fervent heat; the earth also, and the works that are in it, shall be burned up" (Vs.10).
According to Peter, who was writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that's when and where Hell will be. When the fire is done; when sin and sinners are no more; when Satan and his evil Spirits are no more; then Hell is done. Earth is pure and Jesus can then "Create a New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness." How any person can read this and miss the truth is astounding! How our preachers and scholars miss it is unbelievable to the point of sadness. Again, for more Bible answers for this subject, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
View 55 - Why is Hell?
This is one of the saddest of all errors tucked away in Dispensationalism and the majority of Christians. According to some, the reason God has an everlasting Hell is so that the saved will know the horrid condition of the lost. This is supposed to scare the saved so that they will never sin again. This kind of foolish nonsense is not worthy of discussion and has caused millions of people to turn from wanting to know anything about God or Religion. This Doctrine of Demons has been one of Satan's grandest schemes!!.
The real reason for Hell is for two purposes. Jesus called it the "Everlasting Fire prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matt.25:41)!The other reason is that the fire destroys all traces of this sinful world in preparation for earth being made new; the "New Heavens and New Earth." Once again Satan has used his ability as the Master Deceiver. He has taken God's plan to forever remove Sin from His Universe and turned it into a Demonic attack on God's Character. Again, for more info, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
The Tribulation will forever remove all doubt within God's entire Universe concerning God's Laws and His fairness! The Great Tribulation is the Final Nail in the Coffin of Sin and Satan! The Tribulation is Satan's LAST chance to prove his pitiful case. If God's CHURCH defeats Satan, using the New Covenant Power that Jesus has provided for them, sin will be DONE - FOREVER!
When the Church realizes that it will be FRONT and CENTER , the MAIN ATTRACTION in the Tribulation, Satan will experience his WORST Nightmare! This is why he is feverishly working to promote the Doctrine/Theory that the Church will not go through the Tribulation! He wants us to believe the Tribulation is for some future generation of Jews after the Church has been taken out of the world.
The Tribulation will demonstrate God's fairness and mercy, and will be Satan's final chance to prove his case in a normal earthly setting in which un-saved people will be interacting with God's Redeemed people. Scripture has little to say about communications between God and Lucifer (Satan). If, however, we carefully examine all Scripture references to the Tribulation, we'll see its real purpose. Job's story tells of a time when God and Satan spoke directly to each other, and it reveals much about what will happen in End-Times. When finally the Church understands its purpose, God can then say to Satan, "Hast thou considered My CHURCH?" And Satan will be given opportunity to test the Church much the way he tested Job. When Satan tested Job, he made an absolute fool of himself! With the strength God supplied Job, Satan was utterly defeated. So it will be when Satan make war on the Church during the Tribulation! Isaiah and Ezekiel also record conversations between God and Satan (See Isa.14:12-17; Ezek.28, whole chapter). Compile all this info and the purpose for the Tribulation becomes very clear!
When Satan approached God concerning Job, his accusation was that if bad things happened to Job, Job would turn against God, and so it will be in the end of time. Job said, "Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" (Job 13:15). Satan lost when he faced Job. He lost when he faced Joseph, Elijah, Elisha, Daniel, Daniel's 3 companions, and dozens of other Bible Saints. Satan lost big time when he faced Jesus, and he will lose big time when he faces God's last-day people; His Church. His Church will say, "We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us" (Phil. 4:13), and THEY WILL!!! Through the power God gives them, they accomplish EVERYTHING God needs in order for Jesus to come and take His people, His Church, His Bride, to the "Place He prepared for them" (Jn.14:1-3). The Church also accomplishes EVERYTHING God needs when He faces Satan in the final White Throne Judgment!
Jesus said, "To him that OVERCOMETH will I grant to sit with Me on My Thrown, just as I overcame and am set down with My Father on His Thrown" (Rev.3:21). "He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself to walk even as He walked" (1Jn.2:6).
And so we see the reason for the Great Tribulation. God needs His Church to have the same dedication to obedience as did Job, Joseph, Elijah, Elisha, and Daniel. Just before Jesus returns to take His people to Heaven, they WILL defeat Satan. But the Church must develop a burning desire to overcome the Powers of Darkness by using the power Jesus makes available to them. Together these empowered last-day Overcomers will demonstrate to the World and the Universe what can happen when God's people say, "We can do all things through Christ who strengtheth us" (Phil.4:13). When God's Church becomes such an Army of Believers, and, even though it will only be a small portion of those who claim to be His Church, this "Remnant," this "Elect" WILL defeat Antichrist and Satan. God will tell the 4 angels holding the four winds of strife to let go. Satan took his best shot at Job, Joseph, and Daniel and lost, and he'll lose again when he tries to destroy God's Church in the last days. So it will be that the Universe will forever see all of Lucifer's lies openly displayed. His big lie that obedience to God is impossible and un-necessary will be forever exposed. It will be over and all of God's children, His real Church, can go Home, FOREVER and FOREVER!
We apologize for this section being long, but this is the heart of what is wrong with a Doctrine that says God's Church will be taken out of Earth before the Tribulation! Satan's purpose is to destroy God's Church. To illustrate, let's look at two Generals. One is a Good General that will NEVER use deceit and evil forms of conflict. The other is EXTREMELY evil, and uses only lies and evil. There's to be a Grand Finally Battle. The Evil General uses every covert method at his disposal to get a false message to the Soldiers in the Good General's Army. Somehow he succeeds to convince the Good General's Army that they need no concern themselves with Battle because the Good General is going to REMOVE all of them from the Battle Field and replace them with another future Army that has not yet been recruited or trained. Of course the real purpose of the Evil General is to attack and destroy the very Army that believes they will be removed from the Battle Field! This is a crude illustration of the Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib. They are unwittingly aiding the Enemy of our Souls.
View 52 -Isaiah's Pig Prophecy?
This is particularly an Un-Answerable Question and Oxymoron for Pre-Trib Promoters because they say ALL Old Testament Prophecies that have not been fulfilled will be fulfilled some time in the future. Isaiah prophesied that there'll come a time in the future when,"For, behold, the Lord will come with FIRE...like a WHIRLWIND, to render His anger with FURY, and His rebuke with FLAMES of FIRE! For by FIRE and by His Sword will the Lord plead [Plead is - JUDGE - in the original Hebrew] with ALL flesh! And the SLAIN of the Lord shall be MANY! They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating SWINE'S FLESH and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord" (Isa.66:15-17)!
How does Pre-Trib respond to this Prophecy? Their silence is deafening! Obviously the Prophecy is yet future. Pre-Tribbers claim that, 7 years prior to this Prophecy being fulfilled, Jesus will come and Rapture the Church away to Heaven. They say the Church will have already become the Bride of Christ, which will be the highest possible position for created beings within God's Universe. Pre-Trib says these Raptured people come from a time called the "Grace Age" or "Church Age," and that this is the segment of time between the Cross and the Rapture. Pre-Trib's Oxymoron Un-Answerable Question is the following: "Why are these 'Grace Age' people given permission to, even encouraged to, eat SWINE right up until Jesus Raptures them to Heaven, yet 7 years later, Jesus comes out of Heaven utterly destroying the inhabitants of the WHOLE earth that are eating Swine?" Would Jesus really reward one group of people with the highest honor possible and allow, even encourage them to eat pigs, then kill another group for eating pigs? The Reader may ask how we know that Christ's anger and vengeance will involve the whole earth and not just the Jews? Because in the Text it says, "ALL Flesh," which means everybody. Also when Isaiah describes this same event of the Lord's vengeance when He comes at His Second Coming, his prophecy includes the whole world, not just the Jews. In Isaiah 24:1-6, Isaiah tells how Jesus punishes the whole world for "transgressing His Law, changing His Ordinance, and breaking His Everlasting Covenant."
TEMPLES of the Holy Spirit! Our bodies are Temples for the Holy Spirit. Satan loves for us to put Pigs in God's Temples!!
Do Not Touch! One final note. When God set the standard for clean and unclean animals, He only singled out one animal that they were not to touch its carcass. That was of course the Swine. And yet there is no other animal that every eatable part of its body is eaten. His skin, his nose, his tongue, his intestines, even his sex organs. Should we assume this is just coincidental, or should we suspect that the enemy of our Souls has persuaded us to completely and utterly defy God's command? The answer is all too obvious. So, how is this an Oxymoron for Pre-Trib? Pre-Trib Promoters tell us that all unfulfilled Prophecies will be fulfilled in the future, yet they completely ignore this Prophecy. For more details, see, "Eating Pigs When Jesus Comes."
View 53 -Where is Hell?
Ezekiel wrote extensively about how God will kill Satan immediately after the Great White Thrown Judgment. In Revelation, John gave the final details as to how and when Satan will be killed. If Ezekiel, John, Peter, and the other Prophets were right about God killing Satan, then what of this idea of there being a Hell hidden away and continually burning somewhere in the center of earth or out in space someplace? Hell is real. Any Church or Denomination claiming there's no Hell should be ashamed and deserves to be called a Cult and another bad name given to it! However, a careful Bible Study, even a casual reading of the Bible, is more than sufficient to reveal the fact that the Hell promoted by our Popular Preachers does not and will not exist. The notion that God TORTURES people throughout the ceaseless ages of time comes from Greek Mythology, not the Bible.
Pre-Trib actually gets off light on this Un-Answerable Question because they are only continuing what could be called "Orthodox Christianity." Actually Peter told us EXACTLY where Hell will be located and EXACTLY when it happens! We'll show this in a minute, but give a hint now. There is NO Hell burning now, but after the Great White Throne Judgment, there'll be a Hell even hotter than our Popular Preachers rant and rave about! For more detailed information and a close Bible Study on the real Hell, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
View 54-When is Hell?
Pre-Tribbers, along with the majority of Christian Denominations, say Hell is going on no
w. They declare that when the first lost person died after Adam and Eve were created, that person didn't die, but was immediately transferred into a burning Hell where they've been screaming and writhing and begging God for mercy ever since. Why that human has suffered in Hell for the 5000 plus years, yet Satan and his evil spirits have been free to pursue their favorite hobby, which is designing Doctrines of Demons to deceive us humans. Peter Told EXACTLY Where Hell Is Located!
Let's let Peter tell us when and where Hell really happens. The Holy Spirit gave him the following: "The heavens and the EARTH which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment (Great White Throne Judgment) and perdition (destruction) of ungodly men" (2Peter 3:7). "The heavens [the atmosphere surrounding earth] shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements [atmosphere] shall melt with fervent heat; the earth also, and the works that are in it, shall be burned up" (Vs.10).
According to Peter, who was writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that's when and where Hell will be. When the fire is done; when sin and sinners are no more; when Satan and his evil Spirits are no more; then Hell is done. Earth is pure and Jesus can then "Create a New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness." How any person can read this and miss the truth is astounding! How our preachers and scholars miss it is unbelievable to the point of sadness. Again, for more Bible answers for this subject, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
View 55 - Why is Hell?
This is one of the saddest of all errors tucked away in Dispensationalism and the majority of Christians. According to some, the reason God has an everlasting Hell is so that the saved will know the horrid condition of the lost. This is supposed to scare the saved so that they will never sin again. This kind of foolish nonsense is not worthy of discussion and has caused millions of people to turn from wanting to know anything about God or Religion. This Doctrine of Demons has been one of Satan's grandest schemes!!. The real reason for Hell is for two purposes. Jesus called it the "Everlasting Fire prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matt.25:41)!The other reason is that the fire destroys all traces of this sinful world in preparation for earth being made new; the "New Heavens and New Earth." Once again Satan has used his ability as the Master Deceiver. He has taken God's plan to forever remove Sin from His Universe and turned it into a Demonic attack on God's Character. Again, for more info, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
View 56 -Who's in Hell? 
This is another case where Satan has managed to dupe otherwise good Ministers of the Gospel into promoting his Doctrine of Demons! Popular Ministers have gone on worldwide TV broadcasts and made horrible statements portraying Christianity to look like self-righteous bigots. When asked about what will happen eternally to members of other world religions, they answer, "They'll burn throughout eternity in Hell."
Many of these preachers have had to make public apologies for such remarks. Some never apologize, and fortunately for them and the rest of Christians, the rest of the world has shunned them for their arrogant attitude.
Even if these preachers had a correct understanding of the Bible fact that Hell is actually the fire that will destroy sin and sinners after the Judgment, their answer would be outrageous. The real problem is the fact that these preachers have never carefully studied from Scripture what really happens to those who never heard of Jesus. They base their outrageous doctrine on one text:"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12). There are other similar texts, but no Scripture says that persons who have never heard of Jesus will bellow and scream for mercy throughout eternity solely because they were born in the wrong country!! Where is common sense here??
This Author has a close friend who attended a Dispensational University that taught this hard-line view. When asked about his thoughts, he answered, "I believe when Jesus designed the plan of salvation, He cast a very large blanket. I believe there will be some who have never heard of Jesus, but, to the best of their ability, they lived up to all the light they were given. The Jesus I worship will NEVER cast such persons into eternal punishment." This man has true insight!!
Jesus addressed the subject of those who do not have knowledge:"Then said Jesus unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have NO SIN. But now ye say, We see. Therefore your sin remaineth" (Jn. 9:41). Paul wrote: "Because the Law worketh wrath; for where no Law is, there is no transgression" (Rom.4:13).
These texts tell us that, for those who have NO knowledge, they are held accountable ONLY for what they DO know. Not only is this Biblically true, common sense dictates that Jesus would NEVER punish people for something they knew nothing about. He ESPECIALLY would NEVER torture people throughout eternity only because they were born where no knowledge was available. Again, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
View 57 - How Long Does Hell Burn? 
This is another case where Satan has managed to dupe otherwise good Ministers of the Gospel into promoting his Doctrine of Demons! Popular Ministers have gone on worldwide TV broadcasts and made horrible statements portraying Christianity to look like self-righteous bigots. When asked about what will happen eternally to members of other world religions, they answer, "They'll burn throughout eternity in Hell."
Many of these preachers have had to make public apologies for such remarks. Some never apologize, and fortunately for them and the rest of Christians, the rest of the world has shunned them for their arrogant attitude.
Even if these preachers had a correct understanding of the Bible fact that Hell is actually the fire that will destroy sin and sinners after the Judgment, their answer would be outrageous. The real problem is the fact that these preachers have never carefully studied from Scripture what really happens to those who never heard of Jesus. They base their outrageous doctrine on one text:"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12). There are other similar texts, but no Scripture says that persons who have never heard of Jesus will bellow and scream for mercy throughout eternity solely because they were born in the wrong country!! Where is common sense here??
This Author has a close friend who attended a Dispensational University that taught this hard-line view. When asked about his thoughts, he answered, "I believe when Jesus designed the plan of salvation, He cast a very large blanket. I believe there will be some who have never heard of Jesus, but, to the best of their ability, they lived up to all the light they were given. The Jesus I worship will NEVER cast such persons into eternal punishment." This man has true insight!!
Jesus addressed the subject of those who do not have knowledge:"Then said Jesus unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have NO SIN. But now ye say, We see. Therefore your sin remaineth" (Jn. 9:41). Paul wrote: "Because the Law worketh wrath; for where no Law is, there is no transgression" (Rom.4:13).
These texts tell us that, for those who have NO knowledge, they are held accountable ONLY for what they DO know. Not only is this Biblically true, common sense dictates that Jesus would NEVER punish people for something they knew nothing about. He ESPECIALLY would NEVER torture people throughout eternity only because they were born where no knowledge was available. Again, see No Rest Day Nor Night Forever, The REAL Punishment of the Wicked, The Rich Man and Lazarus, and most of all, for a complete Un-Answerable Question, see, Did Jesus Suffer Your Hell for You?
This question cannot be properly covered in a paragraph, so we suggest the Reader see The Punishment of the Wicked for more details. We have actually cover this in the previous sections.
In a nutshell, Hell actually begins when God calls fire down from heaven immediately after the Great White Throne Judgment and Hell ends when it has done its job of purifying earth and destroying sin and sinners in preparation of Jesus "Creating New Heavens and a New Earth." The actual time involved in this purifying process is un-known and, for now it is Un-Knowable. Hell could burn for 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, or even 2 years. It doesn't matter! The part that we DO know, however, is the Bible fact that God will NEVER Torture people throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity. This is the message that Satan wants us to help him spread throughout the world! Let's Not!!!!
There's an UN-ANSWERABLE question concerning Hell that has never been and will never be addressed. We explain below.
View 58-Did Jesus Take Our Punishment?
This Question has created a serious Oxymoron for more than just Pre-Trib! All Promoters of Never-Ending-Torture cannot answer this. All Satanic Doctrines of Demons contain Oxymorons and Un-Answerable Questions, but in most cases the endorsers of these Doctrines conjure up flimsy excuses or answers to satisfy those whose minds are made up and do not want to be confused by the facts. The Question, "Did Jesus Take Our Punishment in Hell," however, stops the "Torture Promoters" dead in their tracks! If the Silver-Tongued Torture Promoters are correct, Jesus could not have risen from the tomb after three days! If the Satanic Doctrine claiming sinners are tortured throughout eternity is true, Jesus must spend TRILLIONS of Un-Ending Years in Red-Hot Flames, bellowing and screaming for mercy while writhing in indescribable agony!! Satan has introduced lots of Blasphemous Doctrines of Devils into the Church, but few more repugnant than the lie that God is going to torture His creatures in fire throughout eternity!! We try to Respectfully Disagree or Agree to Disagree, Agreeably in most cases, but we must make exception here. This is an open and Satanic attack against God and Jesus Christ, His Son!!
A PITIFUL Attempt at an Answer.
A high profile TV Minister placed a Question and Answer section in his Website promising to answer ANY and ALL questions sent in. We sent him our question, and following is his answer: "God intensified the pain onto Jesus for those 3 days so that Jesus suffered for the sins of everybody in the world during that time." Instead of answering the Question, this poor Minister simply added to the Blasphemy. He made it a TRIPLE Blasphemy!
1. He implied that Jesus was not truly Human. For Jesus, while He was in Human form, to be able to have His pain increased several Hundred Billion fold, and then to have that pain increased again by condensing it from eternity down to 3 days could only mean one thing. Jesus was some kind of "Super-Super Man." Jesus was not! He laid aside any Super Powers He possessed when He was here on Earth.
2. The notion that Jesus endured all of the pain and suffering His Body and Soul could endure for 3 days, and yet humans will endure all of the pain and suffering they can endure for Trillions of un-ending years is another way of saying that Jesus "SIDE-STEPPED" our penalty ENTIRELY! He DID NOT, and to imply that He did is Blasphemy in its rawest form!
3. Jesus suffered intense physical pain on the cross. However, almost all Bible Scholars agree that it was the emotional pain of being separated from His Father that caused Jesus the most suffering. To say that after Jesus endured that intense mental, physical, and emotional pain while dying on the cross, His Father would send Him to bellow and scream and beg for mercy in trillion degree fire for 3 days and nights is of course a horrid blasphemous attack on God the Father.
Actually there is a 4th Blasphemy that slips out from the above pitiful attempts of trying to explain away this question. Satan has introduced a Doctrine of Demons into almost all of the World Religions, including some of the Cult-Type groups within Christianity, that promotes the notion that, eventually ALL humans will be saved and enjoy some kind of good afterlife. In other words, EVERYONE WILL BE SAVED! Mainstream Christianity does not embrace this false notion, but if we sort through the pitiful excuses they come up with, such a foolish notion could emerge.
Satan LOVES for humans to conjure up foolishness in their attempts to defend his Doctrines of Demons! For a more detailed discussion of this Oxymoron Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Question, see Did Jesus Take All of Our Hell. Also see Punishment of the Wicked, Day and Night Forever and Ever, The Truth About Death, The Rich Man and Lazarus.
Dear Reader, please forgive this Author's aggressiveness! When people attack God, it's time to get angry!!
View 59 -Will Satan Ever Die?
Of course this is not an Un-Answerable Question exclusive to Pre-Tribbers, but Pre-Trib does enthusiastically embrace the so-called Orthodox notion that Satan Cannot and Will Not die! For the most part, those who support this position have little or no knowledge of Greek Mythology. Cartoons, silly songs, and much Art from the Dark Ages portray Satan with a forked tail and a pitch fork in a burning Hell where he delights in tormenting its residents. Greek Mythology has a story of several brothers. Among these are Zuse and Hades. Greek Mythology tells of Hades being angry and evolving into an evil character that delights in hurting everyone within his realm. From the very beginning of Christianity, there were those who pretended to be Believers that saw Christianity as a novel movement that needed their "wisdom." These were later called Gnostics. For more details on these evil characters implanted into the Early Church, see Gnostics. These Gnostics, some of which were former Greek Philosophers, simply converted some of the Hades Myths by inserting Beelzebub and Satan into them and attempting to pass them off as real Christian Doctrines. Even though the Early Church ousted the most gross of these evil characters, much of their foolishness was adopted by the Church in its Apostate condition.
What Does the Bible Say About Satan's Death?
Ezekiel wrote, "I will DESTROY thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire" (Ezk.28:16). "I will bring forth a fire from the midst of thee; it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee; thou shall be a terror, and NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE" (Vss.18-19).
Pre-Trib's, and the majority of Christianity's, Un-Answerable Question here is how they can read Ezekiel's Prophecy and still contend that Satan will never die! In fairness to them, we will show here Per-Trib's attempted answer. Most Pre-Tribbers admit that Ezekiel's account is describing the time when Satan and his Army surround Jerusalem at the end of the 1000 years in an attempt to make war with Jesus. The Bible verse ends by saying, "and fire came down from God out of heaven and DEVOURED them" (Rev.20:9)! Pre-Trib claims that when this fire "Devours" Satan and his Army, only their bodies are devoured while their "Spirits" or "Souls" remain alive. Pre-Trib's position is that once God gives life to Humans or Angels, they then become "Immortal" and CANNOT Die. This notion creates a BIG problem, however. If God "Brings fourth a fire from within Satan," and that fire "Devours him," and God says to Satan, "And NEVER Shalt Thou be ANYMORE," God cannot be speaking of Satan's body! Satan has no "Body" like humans. Satan IS already a Spirit! So when God says, "Never shalt THOU be any more," He is Not referring to Satan's body, He is referring to SATAN. So when God says to Satan, "Never Shalt THOU be any more," we have a choice. We can believe what God says through His Prophet Ezekiel, or we can believe what some pretend Christians said who never gave up their Greek Mythology ties. For an endepth study as to how Satan Dies, see When Satan Dies. God eventually completely kills Satan and his evil Spirit Demons!
View 60 -Will Lost Sinners Ever Die?
If God is going to kill Satan and his Evil Spirit Demons, obviously the foolish notion that God will keep humans alive and torture them throughout eternity is ridicules beyond words! Satan will stop at nothing in order to promote and perpetuate this gross attack on God's character. A sad fact is that thousands of Ministers repeat this gross lie to their congregations every week, even though they KNOW it to be a lie! These Ministers repeat this lie because they know they'll be fired by their Churches if they tell what they know to be the truth. Some have even said that they know it is false, but it works as a tool to scare people into joining their Churches. Sadly these Preachers never consider how such foolishness has caused millions of people to turn their backs on God completely! On the other hand, a few have determined to tell the truth at any cost, and carefully present this to their people. in many cases the congregations have accepted the truth and continued having their Minister Pastor their Churches. The Un-Answerable Question here for Pre-Trib, as well as most of Christianity lies in the fact that they REFUSE to even study the subject. The other Un-Answerable part is the fact that they can claim to Love God, while at the same time falsely accusing Him of torturing people for Trillions of un-ending year when most of these people only lived to be less than a hundred years. Where's the justice in this? This whole concept can only be processed in our minds by tossing out ALL common sense, and worst of all, tossing out ALL SCRIPTURE! We have several Websites covering this subject in detail. There are a lot of Doctrines of Demons floating throughout the World, but none so repugnantly erroneous as this attack on God! See The Truth About Death, Punishment of the Wicked, Day and Night Forever and Ever, The Rich Man and Lazarus.
View 61 - Rich Man and Lazarus
The vast majority of Christians believe that when Jesus told the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus, He was endorsing the Doctrine of "Eternal Torture." A surfacing reading of the Parable might give this impression, but, a careful reading shows it to be completely at odds with the popular interpretation. A little study into history shows that Jesus was simply repeating back to the Pharisees one of the silly beliefs they had adopted from Greek Mythology. Anyone reading the Greek Myths of Zuse, Hades, and their mythological brothers can readily see how some Jewish leaders made variations of these Myths and substituted Abraham. This attempt by the Jews to fit into the Greek Culture is called the "Hellenization of the Jews." A careful study into what Jesus REALLY believed and taught will reveal that when He told the Parable of the Rich man and Lazarus, He was not endorsing the Pharisee's foolishness, He was simply using their foolishness to do to them what they were attempting to do to Him. Every time the Scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees confronted Jesus, He used their own trap to turn the tables on them. For more on the Rich Man and Lazarus, see our Website "Rich Man and Lazarus."
View 62 - Absent from Body - Present with the Lord
Paul wrote,"We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord" (2 Cor.5:8)! Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is caused by comparing Paul's words here with other Bible Verses. In Psalms we read the following concerning death: "His Breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day, his THOUGHTS PERISH" (Ps.146:4)! According to Pre-Trib, and almost all Christian organizations, when a person dies, his body perishes, but his "Thoughts" never perish, EVER! If Paul is saying that the moment a person dies, he or she is instantly in Heaven and fully conscious, obviously the person's thoughts would not perish, rather his thoughts will be enhanced many times over. If this is what Paul said, he is in complete disagreement with Psalms! However, a closer look at what Paul really wrote shows that he is in total agreement. The key word is "THOUGHTS." When a person dies, his body may take months, years, decades, and more to dissolve back into dust. But, according to Psalms, "In the very day he dies, his THOUGHTS perish!" This is exactly the point Paul made! He was saying that, since there are no "thoughts" for the dead, the very moment he dies, his very next "thought" is the Resurrection when he arises to, "Meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever BE WITH THE LORD" (1Thess.4:17)! Paul understood that because man's "THOUGHTS PERISH," the moment he dies, the man's very next "THOUGHT" after his death, if he's saved, will be meeting Jesus in the air and ALWAYS being with Jesus. To accept the fact that this was Paul's reason for writing, "To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord," means that we can read EVERYTHING in the Bible about death and there's NO Bible contradiction! To try to reverse Paul's meaning is to pit Paul against all other Bible Writers, including himself. What did Paul tell the Thessalonian Church to say to their members concerning those who had died? Let's look:
Comfort One Another With These Words
Before looking at what Paul said, let's look at what our Popular Preachers WISH he had said: "Beloved, comfort one another by remembering that your sleeping relatives are NOT asleep, but rather enjoying the company of other Saints already in HEAVEN! When Jesus returns, He will bring their Souls back with them and at the Resurrection, their Souls will be united with their new bodies, and so shall we ever be with the Lord!" Sounds Ridicules, but it's EXACTLY what we hear at Funerals! What did Paul REALLY say? "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them who are ASLEEP, that ye sorrow not, even as others who have no hope" (1Thess.4:13)! Note that Paul said,"Sleep." "For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trump of God! And the DEAD in CHRIST shall rise first! Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord! Wherefore, COMFORT ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS!!" (Vss.16-18). Our Popular Preachers disagree with Paul twice here. First they contend that "SLEEP" does NOT describe death. They say dead people are more AWAKE than when they were alive. Second, they say Paul should've told them their departed loved ones were ALREADY in Heaven. They would say to Paul, "Nay Paul!! Thou art UNLEARNED!! Thou missed a great opportunity!! Thou shouldest comfort the Thessalonians assuring them that their departed loved ones are ALREADY in Heaven and NOT ASLEEP!!!" Scripture does NOT contradict itself and our Popular Preachers should never imply that it does! For more on what the Bible Really says about death, see The Truth About Death, and Question You Have About Death, but have Been Afraid to Ask.
View 63 -Power of the New Covenant
This is one of Pre-Trib's and Mainstream Christianity's major shortcomings. As for Pre-Trib, their Un-Answerable Question comes in the form of them saying the New Covenant is actually NOT for the Church, but for a future generation of Jews after Jesus "Raptures" the Church to Heaven before the Tribulation. The whole reason for the Tribulation is to give the Church the power to defeat Satan and Antichrist. For more on how there will NOT be some future generation of Jews replacing the Church at that time, see Is the Church Israel and The Bride of Christ. The Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib here is the fact that Pre-Trib says there is no need for any POWER to OVERCOME because we Christians are living in what Pre-Trib calls the "Grace Dispensation," during which time we need not, and will not overcome. It says that during this present so-called Grace Age, Grace frees us from obeying God's Law because Jesus kept it for us. This is confusing! If Jesus obeying the Law frees us from obeying, why does His obedience not free Tribulation Jews from obeying that same Law? This Author has yet to hear Pre-Trib Promoters address this Un-Answerable Question.
Let's focus on the Power of the Covenant. Pre-Trib says that humans during this "Grace Age," CANNOT obey God's Law. The inconsistency here is the fact that these same Pre-Trib Promoters admit, even promote, the idea, that during the "Tribulation Age" God's people will in fact absolutely obey God's Law COMPLETELY.
The Tribulation will be the most difficult time ever for believers to remain faithful and obedient to God's Commandments. So how is it IMPOSSIBLE for Church Age (Grace Age) people to obey in these easy times? If 100% of God's people actually believed that obeying God's Law is impossible, even if they ask God for the strength, and if that 100% also believed it is necessary to disregard God's Law because of that so called, "Grace Age" thing, we'd remain here on this miserably planet in its miserable condition indefinitely. Satan would be the winner. The point here is that because Satan's agents managed to insert this notion that, "Grace Frees Christians to Disobey God's Law," Christianity has failed to fulfill Christ's Commission that "This Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a WITNESS unto all nations, and then shall the end come" (Matt.24:14)! How can Christ's Church be a "Witness unto all nations," if His Church is under the Satanic delusion that they are free to disregard the very Law that Jesus wrote with His own finger? This is Satan's Delusion and he will do all in his power to keep this delusion working for him.
Satan would like the Christian Church to continue indefinitely, but this IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! In our Website called The Power of the New Covenant, we show from Scripture that some day, when God's people have enough sorrow, suffering, and harassment from the powers of darkness, a Remnant of God's CHURCH will say, "We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us" (Phil. 4:13), It may end up being only a small portion of those who make up Christ's Church that ask for and receive the Power offered them, but sooner or later, they WILL!
View 64 - Reflecting Christ’s Character as a “Witness unto All Nations” - Why Jesus Waits
This Un-Answered Question is the most important of all the Questions we ask in this Blogsite and all of our Blogsites. When Jesus told His Disciples that the time would come when there would not be stone in the Temple would be left upon another, they all went to the Mount of Olives where the Disciples asked Jesus a question. Let's look at the Question: "Tell us, WHEN shall these things be? And what shall be the SIGN of Thy Coming and of the END OF THE WORLD" (Matt.24:3)! Underscore END OF THE WORLD. Now let's look at just one of the SIGNS. "And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the World for a WITNESS unto all Nations; AND THEN SHALL THE END COME" (Vs.14). In verses 11, 12, and 13, Jesus prophesied that False prophets would be spreading a particular lie designed to stop the "Gospel of the Kingdom" from being preached, and stop the world from "Witnessing" the power of this Gospel. His words were, "And many false prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many. And because INIQUITY shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold" (Vss.11-12)! Underscore "Iniquity." The Greek word here is "Anomia" and is literally "Annulling God's 10 Commandments."
Conclusion
The Un-Answerable Question here for Mainstream Christianity is, "If Jesus warned that in the last days, just before the 'End Comes,' False Prophets will be declaring that God's Law is annulled, should our Preachers go around declaring that "Grace has Annulled God's Law?"
The Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib is actually 2 Questions: 1. "If Jesus Prophesied that attempting to Annul God's Law will be done by False Prophets in End Times, should they hold to a Doctrine declaring that there is a 'Grace Age' during which time it is acceptable and even necessary to annul God's Law." 2. "If Paul called Antichrist 'Anomos," which means 'Law Annuller,' and Daniel said Antichrist will 'Think to Change Times and Laws,' isn't it a bad idea to hold on to a Doctrine that says 'Grace Frees us to Disregard God's Law?' How can we Reflect the Character of Jesus if we are 'Teaching People to break even the Least Commandment' (See Matt.5:17-19)?"
The Bible Truth about this is clear. When Christ's people REALLY want Him to Come and take them to the Mansions He has prepared, they will seek the Power of the Holy Spirit to obey God and truly reflect the Character of Jesus. When the World "Witnesses" this, Jesus will come!! For more on this, see Why Jesus Waits for His Coming, and The Power of the New Covenant
As we said at the beginning of this Blogsite, perhaps there needs to be some Re-Thinking. We suggest that the most important thing we need to remember is the fact that Jesus wants His People to Truly reflect His Character. When this happens, the World and the Universe will FOREVER know that Satan's lies are lies, ans sin will NEVER raise its ugly head again! NEVER EVER!
In a nutshell, Hell actually begins when God calls fire down from heaven immediately after the Great White Throne Judgment and Hell ends when it has done its job of purifying earth and destroying sin and sinners in preparation of Jesus "Creating New Heavens and a New Earth." The actual time involved in this purifying process is un-known and, for now it is Un-Knowable. Hell could burn for 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, or even 2 years. It doesn't matter! The part that we DO know, however, is the Bible fact that God will NEVER Torture people throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity. This is the message that Satan wants us to help him spread throughout the world! Let's Not!!!!
There's an UN-ANSWERABLE question concerning Hell that has never been and will never be addressed. We explain below.
View 58-Did Jesus Take Our Punishment? This Question has created a serious Oxymoron for more than just Pre-Trib! All Promoters of Never-Ending-Torture cannot answer this. All Satanic Doctrines of Demons contain Oxymorons and Un-Answerable Questions, but in most cases the endorsers of these Doctrines conjure up flimsy excuses or answers to satisfy those whose minds are made up and do not want to be confused by the facts. The Question, "Did Jesus Take Our Punishment in Hell," however, stops the "Torture Promoters" dead in their tracks! If the Silver-Tongued Torture Promoters are correct, Jesus could not have risen from the tomb after three days! If the Satanic Doctrine claiming sinners are tortured throughout eternity is true, Jesus must spend TRILLIONS of Un-Ending Years in Red-Hot Flames, bellowing and screaming for mercy while writhing in indescribable agony!! Satan has introduced lots of Blasphemous Doctrines of Devils into the Church, but few more repugnant than the lie that God is going to torture His creatures in fire throughout eternity!! We try to Respectfully Disagree or Agree to Disagree, Agreeably in most cases, but we must make exception here. This is an open and Satanic attack against God and Jesus Christ, His Son!!
A PITIFUL Attempt at an Answer.
A high profile TV Minister placed a Question and Answer section in his Website promising to answer ANY and ALL questions sent in. We sent him our question, and following is his answer: "God intensified the pain onto Jesus for those 3 days so that Jesus suffered for the sins of everybody in the world during that time." Instead of answering the Question, this poor Minister simply added to the Blasphemy. He made it a TRIPLE Blasphemy!
1. He implied that Jesus was not truly Human. For Jesus, while He was in Human form, to be able to have His pain increased several Hundred Billion fold, and then to have that pain increased again by condensing it from eternity down to 3 days could only mean one thing. Jesus was some kind of "Super-Super Man." Jesus was not! He laid aside any Super Powers He possessed when He was here on Earth.
2. The notion that Jesus endured all of the pain and suffering His Body and Soul could endure for 3 days, and yet humans will endure all of the pain and suffering they can endure for Trillions of un-ending years is another way of saying that Jesus "SIDE-STEPPED" our penalty ENTIRELY! He DID NOT, and to imply that He did is Blasphemy in its rawest form!
3. Jesus suffered intense physical pain on the cross. However, almost all Bible Scholars agree that it was the emotional pain of being separated from His Father that caused Jesus the most suffering. To say that after Jesus endured that intense mental, physical, and emotional pain while dying on the cross, His Father would send Him to bellow and scream and beg for mercy in trillion degree fire for 3 days and nights is of course a horrid blasphemous attack on God the Father.
Actually there is a 4th Blasphemy that slips out from the above pitiful attempts of trying to explain away this question. Satan has introduced a Doctrine of Demons into almost all of the World Religions, including some of the Cult-Type groups within Christianity, that promotes the notion that, eventually ALL humans will be saved and enjoy some kind of good afterlife. In other words, EVERYONE WILL BE SAVED! Mainstream Christianity does not embrace this false notion, but if we sort through the pitiful excuses they come up with, such a foolish notion could emerge.
Satan LOVES for humans to conjure up foolishness in their attempts to defend his Doctrines of Demons! For a more detailed discussion of this Oxymoron Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Question, see Did Jesus Take All of Our Hell. Also see Punishment of the Wicked, Day and Night Forever and Ever, The Truth About Death, The Rich Man and Lazarus.
Dear Reader, please forgive this Author's aggressiveness! When people attack God, it's time to get angry!!
View 59 -Will Satan Ever Die?
Of course this is not an Un-Answerable Question exclusive to Pre-Tribbers, but Pre-Trib does enthusiastically embrace the so-called Orthodox notion that Satan Cannot and Will Not die! For the most part, those who support this position have little or no knowledge of Greek Mythology. Cartoons, silly songs, and much Art from the Dark Ages portray Satan with a forked tail and a pitch fork in a burning Hell where he delights in tormenting its residents. Greek Mythology has a story of several brothers. Among these are Zuse and Hades. Greek Mythology tells of Hades being angry and evolving into an evil character that delights in hurting everyone within his realm. From the very beginning of Christianity, there were those who pretended to be Believers that saw Christianity as a novel movement that needed their "wisdom." These were later called Gnostics. For more details on these evil characters implanted into the Early Church, see Gnostics. These Gnostics, some of which were former Greek Philosophers, simply converted some of the Hades Myths by inserting Beelzebub and Satan into them and attempting to pass them off as real Christian Doctrines. Even though the Early Church ousted the most gross of these evil characters, much of their foolishness was adopted by the Church in its Apostate condition.
What Does the Bible Say About Satan's Death?
Ezekiel wrote, "I will DESTROY thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire" (Ezk.28:16). "I will bring forth a fire from the midst of thee; it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee; thou shall be a terror, and NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE" (Vss.18-19).
Pre-Trib's, and the majority of Christianity's, Un-Answerable Question here is how they can read Ezekiel's Prophecy and still contend that Satan will never die! In fairness to them, we will show here Per-Trib's attempted answer. Most Pre-Tribbers admit that Ezekiel's account is describing the time when Satan and his Army surround Jerusalem at the end of the 1000 years in an attempt to make war with Jesus. The Bible verse ends by saying, "and fire came down from God out of heaven and DEVOURED them" (Rev.20:9)! Pre-Trib claims that when this fire "Devours" Satan and his Army, only their bodies are devoured while their "Spirits" or "Souls" remain alive. Pre-Trib's position is that once God gives life to Humans or Angels, they then become "Immortal" and CANNOT Die. This notion creates a BIG problem, however. If God "Brings fourth a fire from within Satan," and that fire "Devours him," and God says to Satan, "And NEVER Shalt Thou be ANYMORE," God cannot be speaking of Satan's body! Satan has no "Body" like humans. Satan IS already a Spirit! So when God says, "Never shalt THOU be any more," He is Not referring to Satan's body, He is referring to SATAN. So when God says to Satan, "Never Shalt THOU be any more," we have a choice. We can believe what God says through His Prophet Ezekiel, or we can believe what some pretend Christians said who never gave up their Greek Mythology ties. For an endepth study as to how Satan Dies, see When Satan Dies. God eventually completely kills Satan and his evil Spirit Demons!
View 60 -Will Lost Sinners Ever Die?
If God is going to kill Satan and his Evil Spirit Demons, obviously the foolish notion that God will keep humans alive and torture them throughout eternity is ridicules beyond words! Satan will stop at nothing in order to promote and perpetuate this gross attack on God's character. A sad fact is that thousands of Ministers repeat this gross lie to their congregations every week, even though they KNOW it to be a lie! These Ministers repeat this lie because they know they'll be fired by their Churches if they tell what they know to be the truth. Some have even said that they know it is false, but it works as a tool to scare people into joining their Churches. Sadly these Preachers never consider how such foolishness has caused millions of people to turn their backs on God completely! On the other hand, a few have determined to tell the truth at any cost, and carefully present this to their people. in many cases the congregations have accepted the truth and continued having their Minister Pastor their Churches. The Un-Answerable Question here for Pre-Trib, as well as most of Christianity lies in the fact that they REFUSE to even study the subject. The other Un-Answerable part is the fact that they can claim to Love God, while at the same time falsely accusing Him of torturing people for Trillions of un-ending year when most of these people only lived to be less than a hundred years. Where's the justice in this? This whole concept can only be processed in our minds by tossing out ALL common sense, and worst of all, tossing out ALL SCRIPTURE! We have several Websites covering this subject in detail. There are a lot of Doctrines of Demons floating throughout the World, but none so repugnantly erroneous as this attack on God! See The Truth About Death, Punishment of the Wicked, Day and Night Forever and Ever, The Rich Man and Lazarus.
View 61 - Rich Man and Lazarus
The vast majority of Christians believe that when Jesus told the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus, He was endorsing the Doctrine of "Eternal Torture." A surfacing reading of the Parable might give this impression, but, a careful reading shows it to be completely at odds with the popular interpretation. A little study into history shows that Jesus was simply repeating back to the Pharisees one of the silly beliefs they had adopted from Greek Mythology. Anyone reading the Greek Myths of Zuse, Hades, and their mythological brothers can readily see how some Jewish leaders made variations of these Myths and substituted Abraham. This attempt by the Jews to fit into the Greek Culture is called the "Hellenization of the Jews." A careful study into what Jesus REALLY believed and taught will reveal that when He told the Parable of the Rich man and Lazarus, He was not endorsing the Pharisee's foolishness, He was simply using their foolishness to do to them what they were attempting to do to Him. Every time the Scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees confronted Jesus, He used their own trap to turn the tables on them. For more on the Rich Man and Lazarus, see our Website "Rich Man and Lazarus."
View 62 - Absent from Body - Present with the Lord
Paul wrote,"We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord" (2 Cor.5:8)! Pre-Trib's Un-Answerable Question here is caused by comparing Paul's words here with other Bible Verses. In Psalms we read the following concerning death: "His Breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day, his THOUGHTS PERISH" (Ps.146:4)! According to Pre-Trib, and almost all Christian organizations, when a person dies, his body perishes, but his "Thoughts" never perish, EVER! If Paul is saying that the moment a person dies, he or she is instantly in Heaven and fully conscious, obviously the person's thoughts would not perish, rather his thoughts will be enhanced many times over. If this is what Paul said, he is in complete disagreement with Psalms! However, a closer look at what Paul really wrote shows that he is in total agreement. The key word is "THOUGHTS." When a person dies, his body may take months, years, decades, and more to dissolve back into dust. But, according to Psalms, "In the very day he dies, his THOUGHTS perish!" This is exactly the point Paul made! He was saying that, since there are no "thoughts" for the dead, the very moment he dies, his very next "thought" is the Resurrection when he arises to, "Meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever BE WITH THE LORD" (1Thess.4:17)! Paul understood that because man's "THOUGHTS PERISH," the moment he dies, the man's very next "THOUGHT" after his death, if he's saved, will be meeting Jesus in the air and ALWAYS being with Jesus. To accept the fact that this was Paul's reason for writing, "To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord," means that we can read EVERYTHING in the Bible about death and there's NO Bible contradiction! To try to reverse Paul's meaning is to pit Paul against all other Bible Writers, including himself. What did Paul tell the Thessalonian Church to say to their members concerning those who had died? Let's look:
Comfort One Another With These Words
Before looking at what Paul said, let's look at what our Popular Preachers WISH he had said: "Beloved, comfort one another by remembering that your sleeping relatives are NOT asleep, but rather enjoying the company of other Saints already in HEAVEN! When Jesus returns, He will bring their Souls back with them and at the Resurrection, their Souls will be united with their new bodies, and so shall we ever be with the Lord!" Sounds Ridicules, but it's EXACTLY what we hear at Funerals! What did Paul REALLY say? "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them who are ASLEEP, that ye sorrow not, even as others who have no hope" (1Thess.4:13)! Note that Paul said,"Sleep." "For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel, and with the trump of God! And the DEAD in CHRIST shall rise first! Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord! Wherefore, COMFORT ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS!!" (Vss.16-18). Our Popular Preachers disagree with Paul twice here. First they contend that "SLEEP" does NOT describe death. They say dead people are more AWAKE than when they were alive. Second, they say Paul should've told them their departed loved ones were ALREADY in Heaven. They would say to Paul, "Nay Paul!! Thou art UNLEARNED!! Thou missed a great opportunity!! Thou shouldest comfort the Thessalonians assuring them that their departed loved ones are ALREADY in Heaven and NOT ASLEEP!!!" Scripture does NOT contradict itself and our Popular Preachers should never imply that it does! For more on what the Bible Really says about death, see The Truth About Death, and Question You Have About Death, but have Been Afraid to Ask.
View 63 -Power of the New Covenant
This is one of Pre-Trib's and Mainstream Christianity's major shortcomings. As for Pre-Trib, their Un-Answerable Question comes in the form of them saying the New Covenant is actually NOT for the Church, but for a future generation of Jews after Jesus "Raptures" the Church to Heaven before the Tribulation. The whole reason for the Tribulation is to give the Church the power to defeat Satan and Antichrist. For more on how there will NOT be some future generation of Jews replacing the Church at that time, see Is the Church Israel and The Bride of Christ. The Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib here is the fact that Pre-Trib says there is no need for any POWER to OVERCOME because we Christians are living in what Pre-Trib calls the "Grace Dispensation," during which time we need not, and will not overcome. It says that during this present so-called Grace Age, Grace frees us from obeying God's Law because Jesus kept it for us. This is confusing! If Jesus obeying the Law frees us from obeying, why does His obedience not free Tribulation Jews from obeying that same Law? This Author has yet to hear Pre-Trib Promoters address this Un-Answerable Question.
Let's focus on the Power of the Covenant. Pre-Trib says that humans during this "Grace Age," CANNOT obey God's Law. The inconsistency here is the fact that these same Pre-Trib Promoters admit, even promote, the idea, that during the "Tribulation Age" God's people will in fact absolutely obey God's Law COMPLETELY.
The Tribulation will be the most difficult time ever for believers to remain faithful and obedient to God's Commandments. So how is it IMPOSSIBLE for Church Age (Grace Age) people to obey in these easy times? If 100% of God's people actually believed that obeying God's Law is impossible, even if they ask God for the strength, and if that 100% also believed it is necessary to disregard God's Law because of that so called, "Grace Age" thing, we'd remain here on this miserably planet in its miserable condition indefinitely. Satan would be the winner. The point here is that because Satan's agents managed to insert this notion that, "Grace Frees Christians to Disobey God's Law," Christianity has failed to fulfill Christ's Commission that "This Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a WITNESS unto all nations, and then shall the end come" (Matt.24:14)! How can Christ's Church be a "Witness unto all nations," if His Church is under the Satanic delusion that they are free to disregard the very Law that Jesus wrote with His own finger? This is Satan's Delusion and he will do all in his power to keep this delusion working for him.
Satan would like the Christian Church to continue indefinitely, but this IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! In our Website called The Power of the New Covenant, we show from Scripture that some day, when God's people have enough sorrow, suffering, and harassment from the powers of darkness, a Remnant of God's CHURCH will say, "We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us" (Phil. 4:13), It may end up being only a small portion of those who make up Christ's Church that ask for and receive the Power offered them, but sooner or later, they WILL!
View 64 - Reflecting Christ’s Character as a “Witness unto All Nations” - Why Jesus Waits
This Un-Answered Question is the most important of all the Questions we ask in this Blogsite and all of our Blogsites. When Jesus told His Disciples that the time would come when there would not be stone in the Temple would be left upon another, they all went to the Mount of Olives where the Disciples asked Jesus a question. Let's look at the Question: "Tell us, WHEN shall these things be? And what shall be the SIGN of Thy Coming and of the END OF THE WORLD" (Matt.24:3)! Underscore END OF THE WORLD. Now let's look at just one of the SIGNS. "And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the World for a WITNESS unto all Nations; AND THEN SHALL THE END COME" (Vs.14). In verses 11, 12, and 13, Jesus prophesied that False prophets would be spreading a particular lie designed to stop the "Gospel of the Kingdom" from being preached, and stop the world from "Witnessing" the power of this Gospel. His words were, "And many false prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many. And because INIQUITY shall abound, the love of many shall grow cold" (Vss.11-12)! Underscore "Iniquity." The Greek word here is "Anomia" and is literally "Annulling God's 10 Commandments."
Conclusion
The Un-Answerable Question here for Mainstream Christianity is, "If Jesus warned that in the last days, just before the 'End Comes,' False Prophets will be declaring that God's Law is annulled, should our Preachers go around declaring that "Grace has Annulled God's Law?"
The Un-Answerable Question for Pre-Trib is actually 2 Questions: 1. "If Jesus Prophesied that attempting to Annul God's Law will be done by False Prophets in End Times, should they hold to a Doctrine declaring that there is a 'Grace Age' during which time it is acceptable and even necessary to annul God's Law." 2. "If Paul called Antichrist 'Anomos," which means 'Law Annuller,' and Daniel said Antichrist will 'Think to Change Times and Laws,' isn't it a bad idea to hold on to a Doctrine that says 'Grace Frees us to Disregard God's Law?' How can we Reflect the Character of Jesus if we are 'Teaching People to break even the Least Commandment' (See Matt.5:17-19)?"
The Bible Truth about this is clear. When Christ's people REALLY want Him to Come and take them to the Mansions He has prepared, they will seek the Power of the Holy Spirit to obey God and truly reflect the Character of Jesus. When the World "Witnesses" this, Jesus will come!! For more on this, see Why Jesus Waits for His Coming, and The Power of the New Covenant
As we said at the beginning of this Blogsite, perhaps there needs to be some Re-Thinking. We suggest that the most important thing we need to remember is the fact that Jesus wants His People to Truly reflect His Character. When this happens, the World and the Universe will FOREVER know that Satan's lies are lies, ans sin will NEVER raise its ugly head again! NEVER EVER!
Thank You Dear Reader, for your time and interest! God will send His Spirit to help us prepare for the coming of Jesus, if we ask. Let's do it!
Your Brother in Christ
Walter C. Martin Jr.
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Your Brother in Christ
Walter C. Martin Jr.
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